I've to say this what some of you want to do gamble on the clippers deal with player that going to bench warmers for the next 3 years or get an all star thats going to fit in our offense.Rondo don't fit in that offense i seen some celtics games they don't play fastbreak offense thats for CP3.Frankly i think the Hornets play a little triangle offense and mostly low post.At the same time we're to quick to judge on whatever trade this team will get anyway i've a feeling they'll be a trade in principal by 9pm tonight
Chris Paul Preparing for Trade, Prefers Clippers to Warriors
Chris Paul has been told to prepare for a trade from the New Orleans Hornets, according to sources familiar with what is transpiring in New Orleans. Although we predicted yesterday that the Hornets will likely deal Paul within the next few days to the Golden State Warriors, Paul is said to prefer the Clippers, who are also now said to be readying a package for Paul as it becomes more and more apparent that Dell Demps will look to rid the organization of him ASAP.
While the Clippers have so far refused to give up either promising shooting guard, Eric Gordon, or Blake Griffin’s BFF, DeAndre Jordan, it’s hard to imagine them forfeiting the possibility of pairing Chris Paul with Blake Griffin for the foreseeable future to keep either non-superstar. Clearly to get a player of Paul’s caliber you have to be willing to give up substantial talent in return.
Rumors persist that the Celtics are involved, but it appears that they exist only as a means to entice Golden State or the Clippers to put their best offer forward immediately as opposed to playing games. As has become clear, the Hornets are not going to wait around for weeks debating CP3 offers. By keeping the Boston offer in the mix, Demps assures himself that the Warriors and Clippers don’t get in a game of “who can barely offer the most?
Bravo for Demps on continuing to handle his first major move as a GM like an absolute champ. Let’s hope he brings home a deal that sets that stage for a fast and successful rebuild, making CP3 feeling like a chump for demanding to leave an organization so obviously on the upswing. Nothing personal, CP3, we just want to win titles, and it doesn’t seem like we’re going to do that if you’re here.
They sell lotion at Rouses for that burn.
A high draft pick from the Clippers in a draft that could shape up to be a really good one is invaluable. Also Aminu and Bledsoe are YOUNG and themselves are a long way from reaching full potential. If I am the Clippers or the GSW there is no way I give up my prime young talent for a guy that may NOT sign an extension. You all better hope that Chris Paul will sign an extension with either the Warriors or the Clippers or any other non high seeded playoff regular team. The best deals on the table for your Hornets are deals that give your team talent for the future and making a deal or deals with the Lakers or Celtics will only be good if your team is a title contender right away. If not, do not expect the talent you get from those teams to resign once their contracts come to an end. Now if the Warriors are stupid enough to part with Stephen Curry or any talent along those lines without a guarantee from Chris Paul to sign an extension than by all means if I am the Clippers I laugh at that and am content with my young team. I would see it as a means of getting another top pick after a shortened NBA season. Just more YOUNG talent to build my dynasty. I have no dog in this hunt because I was a Charlotte Hornets fan but am not a New Orleans Hornets fan. I am a Denver Nuggets and Charlotte Bobcats fan first and foremost. However personally I am tired of seeing the Clippers being a footstool in LA and would like to see them compete sooner than later. None the less if NO deal is made that brings Chris Paul to the Clippers I feel the Clippers will be a top team in the west within three seasons.
I like Eric Gordon but if they offer him in the trade an the clippers get CP3 i think they should try an get get Nick Young to fill in Gordon's and if butler signs an they dont offer DJ it would be PG-Paul SG-Young SF-Butler PF-Blake C-Jordan Thats a pretty good line-up if you ask me
"Nothing personal, CP3, we just want to win titles, and it doesn’t seem like we’re going to do that if you’re here." I couldn't agree more. As great as Chris Paul is, he wasn't quite able to get it done with what he had here. Or maybe he was too good, but not good enough at the same time. When we drafted him, he instantly made us better. So good, in fact, that we didn't get another top 10 draft pick. But he wasn't good enough to win it all... Ah, mediocrity... Just look at the Thunder. If Kevin Durant had taken the then Sonics to another level, like Chris Paul, then he wouldn't be playing with Westbrook. And if he and KD had been better, they wouldn't have Harden.
Something to look into... I remember the Sonics/Thunder building up a nice stash of first round picks from trades. You might want to look into which picks drafted those players. I doubt they were all from the original draft picks of the organization. Saying that, I believe we should do our best to mimic that model of rebuilding instead of the "lets stay competitive" model where we pick up a bunch of valuable vets and be a fringe playoff team for the next 3 years or so. I'm willing yup deal with a couple of less than impressive seasons as long as there is promising young talent on the floor.
Im sick of hearing all these rumours, come on Demps make us proud. I cant wait 4 fri to get this over and done with & move on. Gud luck Cp3 we wish u all the best sorry we could not put a team together for ya, thanks for the memories but understand if you are not with us u are against us, so we gotta boo ya now
The Hornets going to be in a three team trade that include Rondo going to the Hornets those three teams are Hornets,Celtics and Clippers
Why so high on rondo? I think he's a bit overrated at his position. He flourished in boston due to his all star teamates, imho. but i i think he will struggle when he play in another team not named celtics. His jumpshot is just "turreble." His upside is that he's one of the few pass first mentallity PGs, he's quick and high BB IQ.
Golden State IS NOT willing to deal Steph Curry anymore. Which in my opinion, is a smart move by them. That leaves the Clippers and Celtics with the most notable offers. Personally, I'm a Clipper's fan, so I'll be the first to admit I am biased. However, I think it makes more sense for the Hornets to take the deal with the Clippers. Yes, Rondo outclasses anyone the Clippers are willing to offer, but he is not by any means a scorer, so you are left with a good point, and not many people capable of making his passes turn into points. On the other hand, if you accept the Clippers deal, you are setting the stage for the best young team aside from OKC and possibly the Clippers. Worst case scenario, you take Kaman Bledose Aminu + the Pick. What does that leave you with? 2 Young prospects capable of turning into dependable, athletic guys and 1 expiring contract. In addition, your season wouldn't go GREAT so you would have a top 10 pick. In addition to this, you have Minnesota's pick which will almost certainly be a top 5 pick. Now what do you have? Two great drafts and FOUR young players who can make the Franchise into an INCREDIBLE young team. You also have a good amount of Cap space when you let get of Kaman. Let's say you get DeAndre instead, then you have a team of 5 young players! Draft an SG and PF and you have a powerful young lineup. Bledsoe- Draft Player- Aminu - Draft Player- Jordan. Yes, this isn't as immediate as you would want, but that sounds much better than having Rondo throw passes to nobody, right? Just my two cents... my long... long two cents!
I agree the Minny pick should be good, but I would stop short of putting then at the top of the lottery... You have to remember that the wolves are LOADED with former high draft picks. Williams, Rubio, randolph, beasely, Love, Johnson, and to a lesser extent Darko... But I would want as many 2012 first round picks as possible... This draft class will be LOADED due to many freshman last year staying in college because of the labor uncertainty
"Bravo for Demps on continuing to handle his first major move as a GM like an absolute champ. Let’s hope he brings home a deal that sets that stage for a fast and successful rebuild, making CP3 feeling like a chump for demanding to leave an organization so obviously on the upswing. Nothing personal, CP3, we just want to win titles, and it doesn’t seem like we’re going to do that if you’re here. They sell lotion at Rouses for that burn." Do you ever wonder why CP3 wants to leave, but Duncan didn't, and Durant doesn't? It's because those organizations built successful teams around their superstars, with at least 1 other all-star quality player and several role players just below that level. The reason why CP3 wants to leave now is because the Hornets organization has spent and traded unwisely-letting go of Chandler to get Okafor, letting go of Collison for Ariza, etc. Besides Paul and an aging David West, there just isn't much talent on this team. Okafor is ok, but he'll likely get dumped too in the rebuilding process. It will be a long, slow, rebuilding process, no matter the outcome of this trade. This bravado just makes Hornets fans look silly.
Demps has done great since coming to NO. And let you not forget, Demps came from the organization that built around your example of Duncan. He simply didn't have the time to really have a fair chance at fixing Bowers mess and making CP3 happy. I have full confidence that while it may take a season or two, Demps and Monty will provide a winning team to us.
While I do believe that Paul, Ellis, Wright, Lee, Chandler trumps the line up of Paul, Belli, Ariza, West, Chandler + Mek as a sixth man. But the lineup that you want isn't possible. You can't forget about the cap. If we bring back West then we have no room to sign Tyson. And vice versa. If we Sign Tyson we must renounce our rights to West. Personally, if we lose paul(which is merely a formality at the point) we need to just blow the team up and start over with young talent.
He is linked to GS because of chris paul... The team that lands tyson undress it's chances at getting paul... And if you put Paul, Ellis, wright, Lee, Chandler on a court... You have a contending starting 5 my friend.
then why is everyone convinced he is going to golden state? I dont think they would be considered a contender either
Well Warriors Are out according to Hornetsreport.com......So now its the Clippers......I still hope for the Celtics and Rondo
if the hornets get rondo, they better place some MAJOR offensive upgrades around him. Coasting Chris Paul is better than Rondo at scoring. Rondo is definitely overrated because of assisting to great players. great defender and rebounder though
Why Rondo? Other than your opinion that "he runs the offense better than Paul". We may not like the fact that Paul is leaving. And some may resent him for not staying. However, we must still respect him for the talent that he is. He is still the games best PG. Even his worst critics agree he is top 3. Rondo isn't even that conversation. So to say he runs the offense better than Paul is a little out there. But everyone has the right to an opinion and I respect that. But can you explain your want for the Celtics deal? Maybe you can show me something I'm missing?
At this point trading CP3 is the best thing for us. I'm a huge fan of Paul and I loved watching him play for the Hornets. However, the damage is done now. We need to stop asking why he wants out pleading for him to stay. I can say I appreciate that Paul is handling this situation much better than other superstars have before him. He isn't bashing the Hornets. He is leaving peacefully. The bright side is that this gives a chance to watch our team become young and, hopefully, exciting. Personally, I am a fan of the Clippers as a trade partner. They can offer us Eric Gordon, a quasi-All-Star SG. DeAndre Jordan, a young rising center. Eric Bledsoe, an extremely young point with plenty of upside. I'm not a fan of Aminu because he reminds me of the nightmare that was Julian Wright. They also have the more enticing draft pick coming from the Wolves. I hate the Boston trade because I don't believe Rondo can play on our team. Rondo needs to be surrounded by stars to put up the stats he does. If we are rebuilding with young talent he isn't a fit for us. If we were able to flip pieces for superstars then I would be all for it, but I don't see that being possible so it's a no go for Rondo. Warriors package is ok, but it doesn't make me excited as a season ticket holder. So the fact he prefers the Clips makes me happy. By trading Paul, he frees us up from re-signing DWest to a DOOMED long-term deal(in hopes it makes CP3 want to stay). West WILL start to decline sooner rather than later, if he hasn't starting declining already. We can sign and trade him to some other team and let him become their excess baggage sometime in the next few years. And in return we can get a draft pick or a nice young player in return. Then Emeka is a valuable (and slightly pricey) commodity. We can trade him to a center needy team for expiring contracts and/or young talent. Same with Ariza, flip him to a team who needs a defensive wing. I'm fine with keeping Jack in the meantime because he is a starting caliber Point and his salary isn't too disgusting. After finishing whatever trades we make, we can fill out our roster with whoever on one year deals and then attack the market next year. The only free agent I am in love with is Afflalo and we don't have a real shot at him right now.(nor would we need him assuming we get sg via trade) But I think he would be a "Monty Guy". Other than that, Lets Geaux Hornets! And lets hope for a successful season or atleast an exciting team to put on the floor.
Am I the only one who thinks that the presence of Gordon should'nt be a deal breaker ? Just let's take CP3 for Bledsoe/Aminu/Jordan/1st pick Then bring back that guy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCKxgkEwHU I could manage to watch 66games with a starting five Bledsoe(Jack)/Thornton/Ariza/Aminu/Jordan(Okafor). And with 2 draft picks, hornets could draft a pretty good duo of young players and be back in playoff contention within 1 year.
absolutely have to have gordon...what if the t wolves drastically improve, bledsoe and aminu amount to nothing, and deandre doesn't improve at all? we would have given the best pg in the nba away for nothing. at least with gordon, you have one guy that you can pretty safely say will be a legitimate starter for the future
To all my fellow die hard Hornets fans do you think pointental buyers of the Hornets are aware that the Hornets are doing this trade and as long as we get value in the trade it wont hurt the future of team long term.
Shouldn't have traded MT5 or Collision. Man I'm sad as my basketball season has been ruined. Why not stay CP3 build your own so-called big three man.
Honestly i would take the Celtics trade for CP3 except make it a 3 team trade....... I would rather have a PG that can run the Offense and Play good defense like Rondo... I know Demps will make the right move but Just noting that Rondo has 4 years left on his Contract and Jeff green can help us out with the SF spot and possibly add Glen Davis in the trade to us.... so honestly i would rather have that then just Steph Curry or Eric Gordan and other people.....Rondo can run the Offense better than Chris Paul can and one thing rondo can do is Draw many Fouls and get in the Paint easy Now i would rather have that for a team.... Then after we get them for CP3 we can also get some SG's like MT5 and Jamal Crawford so with a squad like that we can be Great within time (They have to get used to system) Plus Rondo Doesnt have the best Jumpshot but he is a BIG Playmaker..... All we would need is a Center... Lineup: PG: Rondo, Jarrett Jack SG: Jamal Crawford, MT5 SF: Trevor Ariza, Jeff Green, Pondexter PF: Carl Landry, Glen Davis C: Emeka Okafor, Anderson
Both deals sound good to me, ONLY if Gordon or Curry are part of the deal. As the reality of this continues to set in, I just can't wrap my head around why Paul wouldn't be interested in staying. It seems like there's a lot coming together for the Hornets, and honestly, I feel like we have enough flexibility to build a team around him that would be as good as ALMOST any other team he could be traded to. If he can't see that, and if he really wants to be traded that badly, then I say adios. I just can't believe that after being out on the streets and watching the city the night of the Super Bowl win, he wouldn't have said to himself, "Hell, if Brees can do this, so can I." Granted, he hasn't had the coaching and ownership stability that Brees has enjoyed, but it seems like all of that stuff is about to work itself out. It's just so sad. . . I must say though, that both of those potential trades sound good, and I think Hornets fans will be pleased. Do you guys think West would be willing to sign with Indiana instead of us if we have Curry or Gordon before he's made a decision?
The Clippers said that Gordon will not be part of the trade so Warriors or Celtics have the better deals
This is getting more interesting by the moment. If the package from the Clips is built around Eric Gordon and that unprotected #1, then I'm on board. Hopefully Demps can find a way to add another piece or two, perhaps by subtracting a piece or two from our current roster.
Is this gonna be a situation where the a deal is agreed upon and we hear about it before friday? Or are we gonna have to wait?
Maybe. What could someone realistically say to make you feel better? I'll try to say it. Or is it just patience, nerves, anxiety, excitement?
The CBA will be voted on today by players, tomorrow by owners, and free agency opens Friday. That's when trades can happen. Even draft night deals have to wait before they are official. At this point, it's all semantics, but they teams will want `their guys' in camp as much as possible, so expect the big moves to start when the pumpkins turns back into a carriage.
Why do we care where Paul prefers? If the better deal for the Hornets is the Warriors, then by God, let it be the Warriors.