After a few crushing losses, everyone must go! Michael and I talk trades! Not that any of them will happen, but it’s fun talking about them! Hope you enjoy the new opening! And all the exclamation marks in this summary!
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19 responses to “In the NO Podcast Episode 205: Trades!”
Love the new intro song! I was listening earlier this week and thinking, “Man, they need to update that. Half those guys don’t even play here anymore.”
Love the Gorgui Dieng idea.
Moving forward to next year if we stand pat with everyone. They have to either let asik walk or Cunningham. Reason I say that is they are floor spacing killers in the starting lineup. Either need a elite wing shooter or a reliable catch and finish center. Defense will suffer regardless.
The only way I give up on the season is to get a great player like Melo to pair with Jrue and Davis. Then go get Monroe and play that core 4 for the next 4 years.
adfly I don’t know. I think the offense is good enough as is – So why not take Anderson and upgrade to crazy good defense on the wing with MKG.
That’s really what I’m looking for now. Guys who are amazing at something to help Swiss Army Davis.
I wouldn’t mind mkg for Anderson. Just have to have a coach that wants to play uptempo.
Here were my trades for the record:
Gordon
1.) Jarrett Jack and Kevin Garnett for Eric Gordon and a future pick
(if not Garnett, then Mirza Teletovic and maybe another contract)
Thought process – Brooklyn blows it up, dumps a year of Jack and gets a pick in the future when they have none.
We get a backup guard for 40% the price
2.) Gordon for Scola, Copeland, Watson, and either Miles or Ian Mahinmi
3.) Gordon and Babbitt for Stuaskas, D. Williams, and R. Sessions
Asik
3-way trade:
Omer Asik and Caron Butler to the Raptors
Terrence Ross, C. Hayes, Raps 1st rounder, and Ajinca to Pistons
Greg Monroe and Hansbrough to Pels
* Monroe for 4 yrs/60 mil or Asik for 3-5 yrs at 10 mil per?
Ryno
1.) Ryan Anderson and Joel Freeland to the Bobcats
Marvin Williams to the Blazers
Thomas Robinson, Gary Neal, Noah Vonleh, and Charlotte protected 1st round pick to Pelicans
Ryno and Gordon
1.) Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon for Kevin Love, B. Haywood, and James Jones
then move Asik for Terrance Ross and C. Hayes
2.) Ryno and Gordon for D. Williams, McLemore, Sessions, Hollins, and Landry
You got your 4 big rotation with Landry and Ajinca. Have a ton of money for FA
Trade Tyreke at Peak value
1. ) Evans for Goran Dragic and TJ Warren
2. ) Ryan Anderson and Tyreke Evans for K. Faried, Afflalo, G. Harris (Faried deal is 4/50)
3.) R. Anderson and Tyreke for Carmelo Anthony
Doesn’t this all depend on smoothing? If the cap is smoothed, we get significant extra money to use this summer and we have the advantage of offering players a spot next to AD: pretty strong stuff.
Further, our current roster isn’t that far away from a playoff roster. In fact you could argue if our current roster was our beginning of season roster, we are a playoff team now (even with injuries). So adding a piece this summer (SF or PG) and trading Gordon (then a very valuable expiring) next year for at least one quality piece, is still a viable option.
504ever There is a 0% chance smoothing begins this summer. The proposal on the table is for the smoothing to begin in summer of 2016 – for the cap to go up to say 80 or 85 mil as opposed to 90 or 95.
The cap this summer will be in the mid to high 60’s
Michael McNamara 504ever
That makes a difference, but I still think smoothing coming in summer of 2016, combined with Eric’s contract expiring in 2016 and the cheap contracts we have for a 2016-17 (Tyreke, Jrue, & Q-Pon), patience is a reasonable path, too.
In my opinion, there is no way the Union accepts smoothing without it starting in the 2015-16 season. You don’t need an economics degree to see a simple and fair solution of pushing a dollar a year forward for every dollar you push a year back. That way you smooth over three years and the cap goes up around $8M/year/team. That’s reasonable and deals with the Union’s “player shelf life” concern.
I do not see why Toronto would do that deal with Valanciunas on board.
Michael McNamara I am not sure Sacramento would trade their most recent lottery pick for the right to pay Eric Gordon $15M next season.
Here is why I like not love the MKG suggestion. I’ve said it before, the way AD plays, we need someone else that can play in the paint.
MKG defends and plays around the rim, so when AD pops our for the high screen and roll, MKG will do garbage work in the paint and help out.
Now we loose another shooter and I think we need that, but we will be less dependent on RA when JH comes back.
Some of your trade ideas are good, just not sure teams will do. ryno trade for neal, Trob, Noah V and get a 1st?
Ra and reke for melo, if Monty can’t win, gone.
Thought Ryan was going to spit the hottest verse of 2015 in the intro.
Man yall changed the music up huh? Thought one of you was gonna drop a hot 16 for a second!
Eric Gordon for Kendrick Perkins Expiring, Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb ….*Drops Mic*Michael McNamara ryanschwan
Cmac2004 Michael McNamara ryanschwan Can’t see OKC ever doing that. They have Waiters and Morrow as scoring guards off the bench. Don’t know why they would pay Gordon 15.5 mil next year to have such a little impact
Michael McNamara Cmac2004 ryanschwan Tyreke???Same deal??
Cmac2004 Michael McNamara ryanschwan The last thing OKC needs is more guys with 25%+ usage rates