Pelicans Scoop: Asik, Playoffs, and the Starters

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Published: July 16, 2014
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1. What excites you the most about the addition of Omer Asik?

Michael McNamara: The fact that we will get to see Anthony Davis freelance and roam more on the defensive end. Last season, he was always the last line of defense, so he had to stay disciplined and you knew that if he got beat, it was game over. Not anymore. Davis can hedge hard and go for steals, knowing Asik is behind him. He can leave his man and go for a swat, knowing Asik will be there to clean up the boards. Anthony Davis has just been given a pass to be ten times more aggressive as a defender, and that should scare the heck out of the other 29 teams in the league.

Mason Ginsberg: Apart from the unibrow defensive factor given above, I’m excited because, despite Asik possessing a limited offensive skill set, he should help the Pelicans’ offense from a team perspective. His ability to both protect the rim and rebound at an elite level will allow the team’s guards and even Anthony Davis/Ryan Anderson to get out and run more frequently in transition. The thought of Asik cleaning up the glass on the defensive end while Holiday, Evans, Davis, & Perimeter Shooter X run the floor is a massive upgrade from last season that I don’t think enough people around the NBA recognize.

Nick Lewellen: The match ups. Assuming we keep Ryan Anderson (and it looks like we will), we will have three very good big men. Better yet, between the three we will have pretty much every skill set you’d want. That means we can be more aggressive with our line ups. We won’t have to respond to what the other team is doing. They’ll have to respond to us. Ain’t it great to have options?

Jake Madison: I’m excited that Monty finally gets the defensive center he wants in his defensive system. I’m on the opposite of belief from Mason, as I think the Pelicans slow down and run a grind-it-out style of play. It may not be fun to watch but Asik should allow the Pelicans to get back to how they played in the first season under Monty. The style of play that featured a top 10 defense and a playoff spot.

James Grayson: Like everyone above there’s the whole defensive aspect to Asik’s game that really excites you. To add to this I’ll say that an aspect to Asik’s game that won’t get discussed is his pick and roll defense. He’s not necessarily fleet of foot, however he’s one of the best 7-footers at hedging on the pick and roll and this fits perfectly with what Monty wants to do. Add in the shot-blocking, rebounding and general Turkish delight-ness and there’s a lot to be excited about.

Michael PellissierAsik’s defensive/rebounding abilities are a perfect fit. Stops help you get out in transition and attack before the defense is set, and we haven’t been able to stop anyone for a couple years now. Look for Tyreke to get loose with Asik patrolling the paint. He also fixes our weak defensive rebounding, and our guards should no longer have to crash the boards to compensate for weak frontcourt rebounders. And AD can finally roam freely.

 

2. Who do you think starts games for the Pelicans this season? Who finishes them?

McNamara: I think Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Davis-Asik starts games, and on most nights Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Anderson-Davis finishes them. I believe there is a small chance that Salmons starts at SF and gets 15-20 minutes, allowing Tyreke to change the game off the bench, but the addition of Asik allows the Pelicans to go a little smaller on the wing, knowing they have the best defensive duo in the NBA behind them. Meanwhile, Anderson is just too deadly and opens up the offense too much to keep him off the floor at the end of the game. Rebounding might be a bit of a problem, but the Finishing Five will create more problems for the opposition than they will have themselves.

Ginsberg: Holiday-Gordon-Salmons-Davis-Asik, although I’d love to be wrong and see Evans replace Salmons in that lineup. Regardless, Evans and Anderson should both play twice as many minutes as Salmons, who will be in the game to fill the floor-spacing role that Morrow left. The closers will be the same “finishing five” as last season, although if games get particularly close in crunch time, don’t be surprised to see the Asik-for-Anderson defense-for-offense subs.

Lewellen: Holiday-Gordon-Salmons-Davis-Asik, and this is actually my preferred starting lineup. I’d rather have Evans and Ryno enter the game together, because last season they showed the makings of quite a dynamic duo. We could just destroy second units with those two guys featured. I agree with everyone else on the closers. I think the 5th closer (either Anderson or Asik) will depend entirely on what the team needs based off the opponent. Again, ain’t it great to have some good options?

Madison: Holiday-Gordon-Salmons-Davis-Asik, but I don’t think Salmons solely plays with that bunch. He should receive maybe around 20 minutes a game which allows a lot of flexibility when it comes to the core-player-lineups. Mason nailed the finishing five–especially the Asik for Anderson sub since Monty loves to go with offensive-defensive subs late in games.

Grayson: Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Davis-Asik to start and Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Anderson-Davis to finish. I mean it’s quite a standard response however I would expect things to be very fluid in terms of lineups. A lot will depend on matchups and who the Pelicans are actually playing so don’t expect Monty to be consistent with his starters and who he finishes with. As a wildcard don’t rule out Asik finishing games. Monty seems to have a love affair with centers and if Asik performs I wouldn’t rule him out from finishing games.

PellissierSame as many of the others: Holiday-Gordon-Salmons-Davis-Asik to start and Holiday-Gordon-Evans-Anderson-Davis to finish. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Evans start in place of Salmons either.

 

3. Where does the Davis-Asik-Anderson trio rank amongst NBA front line trios?

McNamara: Second. I think the Bulls trio of Noah/Gibson/Gasol is more proven, but if and when Anthony Davis takes another leap, I think the Pelicans rise to first. The fact that you can throw an elite offensive duo (Anderson/Davis) or an elite defensive duo (Davis/Asik) out there at any time and change the game is a coaches dream. The Anderson/Asik combo gives you a perfect blend of both, and the thought that at least two of those guys will be on the floor for every second of the game should give opposing teams nightmares.

Ginsberg: Great question here. Some of the best in my opinion, for some perspective: Griffin/Jordan/Hawes, Gibson/Noah/Gasol, Nowitzki/Chandler/Wright, Love/Pekovic/Dieng, Randolph/Gasol/Koufos. First things first – there is not a more versatile 3-man front court combo than Davis/Asik/Anderson in regards to the ability to succeed at both ends of the court, and it’s not particularly close. If all I was worried about was winning a game tomorrow, I think I would take the Clippers’ trio by a hair, with the Pelicans’ coming in right behind them. By mid-season, though, it would not surprise me in the least if my answer changes to NOLA’s guys by a solid margin.

Lewellen: First, when everyone is healthy. I really like what the Bulls and Dallas have, but they don’t have the diversity or youth of our lineup. Sure, we will need Davis to take that next step, but his development so far has been off the charts. I don’t see any reason to think his rate of development dips below average this season. That means it will be a trio with a legit young superstar and two perfect compliments. Who else has that?

Madison: I wanted to say second or third but then I really looked at it and I have to say first. The Bulls snagging Gasol is a great move, but he shouldn’t be playing 36 minutes a night anymore. The Clippers have a strong trio but Jordan’s abysmal free throw shooting knocks them down some. But pairing elite defense with scoring versatility sets the Pelicans ahead of everyone.

Grayson: Being a homer I’ll say first, but there are a lot of good front lines around the league. For the sake of it my top front lines in the league are as follows: One, Pelicans (Davis, Anderson, Asik). Two, Chicago (Noah, Gibson, Gasol). Three, Minnesota (Love/Pekovic/Dieng). Four, Detroit (Drummond/Monroe/Smith). Five, Dallas (Nowitzki, Chandler, Wright).

PellissierNoah/Gibson/Gasol/Mirotic is the best frontcourt in the league, I think. I’m also a big fan of Gortat/Nene/Humphries, Dirk/Tyson/Wright, DJ/Hawes/Griffin, Horford/Millsap/Antic, and of course Duncan/Diaw/Splitter. Given my lofty expectations of Anthony Davis, I really think this could be the second or third best frontcourt in the league.

4. Is there one Western Conference playoff team that you feel confident in saying the Pelicans are better than? If so, who?

McNamara: The Grizzlies and the Trailblazers. Personally, I think that the Pelicans were better than both of these teams, when healthy, last year. Now, the Pelicans have added Asik, while the big additions for these two teams are Chris Kaman (Blazers) and Vince Carter (Grizzlies). Everything broke right injury wise for Portland last year, and while people felt so sorry for the Grizzlies for losing Marc Gasol last season, their key guys only missed 35 games total. The Pelicans would have killed for that. If all three teams have the same luck this season, the Pelicans are easily the best of that trio.

Ginsberg: The Pelicans’ posted an average scoring margin of +8 against the Grizzlies last season, so I have zero hesitation when saying that they’re better than Memphis, who basically have only swapped Ed Davis for Vince Carter so far this offseason. Apart from that, it’s tough to confidently say anything until the games start getting played; the Spurs, Thunder & Clippers will be at the top again, the Rockets still have James Harden & Dwight Howard, the Warriors are still ripe with talent, & the Mavericks added a couple of Chandlers (Tyson & Parsons). The only reasonable choice left would be the Trail Blazers, who experienced near-perfect health last season and could regress next season. That being said, I’m not ready (yet) to suggest that New Orleans is better than Portland, though it would not surprise me in the least.

Lewellen: We aren’t better than the Spurs, Thunder, or the Clippers. I’m not sure how to feel about the Rockets, given the way their offseason has gone so far. I could see that being a dysfunctional team in no time. The Warriors are probably still better than us. I’m not sure about Dallas. I’m leaning towards yes, but I want to see how Parsons works out. I’m confident we are better than Portland and Memphis, for all the reasons listed above.

Madison: Memphis. They haven’t done much this offseason to improve while the Pelicans have added a massive, key piece. Couple that with health and a next-level leap from Davis. Future is looking good.

Grayson: Seeing as the question asked for one I’ll have to go with the Rockets. They are a terrible defensive team and added Ariza while losing Parsons, Asik and Lin. Roster stability is something very few people value these days and Houston doesn’t have much of it recently. The Pelicans, when healthy are a much better team.

Pellissier: the Memphis Grizzlies. But honestly, better may not be as important as healthierEvery year, X teams struggle with major injuries en route to clinching or falling short of playoff spots. Portland was absurdly healthy last year and the Pelicans were absurdly unhealthy, but that doesn’t mean that this year fortunes will change. Given perfect health for everyone, I think the Pelicans are the 6th-9th best team in the West- after the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers, Mavericks, Warriors. I think we’re in the same tier as Portland, Memphis, and Houston.

 

5. What is your overall grade for the Pelicans offseason?

McNamara: An A. I said it on the podcast Sunday and I will stick with it. I know that the signing of John Salmons leaves a bit of a sour taste in some peoples’ mouths because it was the last move, and we always remember the most recent thing. But I like Salmons for the intangibles that he brings and think he is a better spot-up shooter than most people realize. But this summer isn’t about Salmons. It is about adding Asik while keeping our core and some nice fringe pieces as well. It’s about bringing in some new blood in Russ Smith and Patric Young – two proven winners who are incredibly hungry and fit the culture this organization is trying to build. Dell has pulled another rabbit out of his has by getting Asik. Now, it is time for Monty to coach them up.

Ginsberg: B+. You can whine about the Pelicans not being able to unload Eric Gordon’s contract, or you can be happy about what they were able to do despite having that contract on the books. I choose the latter, as New Orleans’ ability to add an elite defensive center while sacrificing zero players who figured to get minutes next season was truly remarkable. Jeff Duncan said it well yesterday morning: “The Pelicans went into the offseason with few resources at their disposal and have managed to add starting center Omer Asik and potentially three key reserves, combo forward Omri Casspi; rookie point guard Russ Smith and power forward Patric Young to the five-man core of Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday, Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans and Eric Gordon. Impressive work, Dell Demps.” (He notes that Casspi is likely to be waived & replaced with John Salmons.) Impressive work, indeed. If Asik can be extended for a reasonable price (ideally right after the Pelicans dump Gordon & add their long-term solution at SF next offseason), then this grade will retroactively jump to an A/A+.

Lewellen: A, and I’m not sure how it could be less. First, we acquire Asik. There was a cost, which many Dell Doubters are quick to point out. But if you’re going to point out the cost, acknowledge that there was a point in time, not even a year ago, when the cost was much higher. Maybe it wasn’t as high as 2 first rounders, like some reports suggested. Still, it was higher. And sure, Salmons isn’t a sexy signing, but he fits a role. If you consider all the possible outcomes for the Pelicans’ offseason before the offseason started, this is one of the best. So Dell gets a high grade in my book.

Madison: It’s a B+ right now. The Asik move to me is an A- but the lack of movement on Gordon is what drags the grade now. But if the team makes the playoffs and actually keeps the first round pick which was sent to the Rockets? Well, that would certainly boost it up!

Grayson: A-, personally I never saw how Gordon could’ve been traded and the only thing that is holding me back from an A is finding a solid small-forward option as I don’t think Salmons is ideal. For Dell Demps and his staff it would of been tough to ask to find better talent with the position his roster was in. Overall, very pleased and fans should be excited when this team finally gets healthy and stays on the court for a sustained period of time.

Pellissier: B+. I love the Asik addition, but we’re still short a small forward that we can depend on for major minutes. I realize that there is time to add that for the future, but as of right now, the Pelicans walk into the season without a solid contributor at that position (though I’m happy with Salmons playing a role). Losing Morrow and Smith hurts, but they can be replaced. I’m just glad Dell was able to add Asik without throwing away any other of our key contributors. It was a solid offseason by all accounts.

20 comments
lsucpolk
lsucpolk

This is a huge year for the team across the board.  It's a huge one for Dell and his plan...  It's a huge one for Monty.  This is finally his year to prove himself as a coach.  No more excuses...  This is an enormous year for Austin Rivers' career.  It's "put up, or shut up" for him.   Brian Roberts is gone, so he's going to have to take a big step to prove he can contribute consistently, and be a player that Monty can trust...  This is also a big year for Eric Gordon.  He has a lot of doubters/haters to prove wrong...  Can Tyreke continue his stellar play as a sixth man, coming off the bench?  ...  Can our top three guards mesh, and consistently play well together as a unit?...  The good news is we know what Anthony Davis can do.  I'm really stoked.  The season can't come soon enough.

Zed84
Zed84

If the Pels get Hamilton then then I'm fully sold


C  Asik  Ajenca  Withey

PF Davis Anderon Young

SF Hamilton Babbitt Salmons

SG Evans Gordon

PG Holiday Rivers Smith

champsworld504
champsworld504

The writers at BSS are some of the most kowledgable (don't know if I spelled it right) writers on the internet. If I had to depend on espn for my basketball info I'd be lost.

polofr3sh
polofr3sh

Smh

Salmons huh?

sure he will be next years Brian Roberts

no one is gonna enjoy watching him play......


and he is old

been playing since 03 Iverson lol

just curious to what impact he is gonna make?

Our Scouts suck

or Dell's taste for talent is just horrible



Tyler Honeycutt....Francisco Garcia...Justin Holiday? i mean dell's only option was Salmons Really??? lot of cheap young potential SF performing well in summer league that can develop and become somthing

but New Orleans always ends up with lazy coaches that don't want to develop Players

they just want to make playoffs

nothing more nothing less

watching Cp3 do it all by himself

back then in the playoffs was just pain 2 the eyes

them so called Vets couldnt do anything

Peja? Mo Peterson? lol Okafor?


(Byron Scott) was the same way

armstrong, steve smith, David Wesley and Lynch on one team???? all in mid 30's

He

traded everyone away to have a veteran team and we saw how far that took him

veterans don't make a team great

teams that develop talent 

make them great

Warriors , Blazers , Spurs, Thunder

all have most of their draft picks and developed their core players


hoping this Year 

im proven wrong

cause i can easily say now

just having Asik added to the roster

is still not enough to make the playoffs in western conference

smh

Demps

better season record

but playoffs???

nawwwwwww


Larry Lemoine
Larry Lemoine

I've never been impressed with Evans production when he's in the SF role. I still think Evans comes off the bench and plays some point. Gordon will need to start to space the floor somewhat as this team doesn't shoot as well as last season's team. The SF position is the big hole - I liked Salmons at one time but I haven't seen much the last 2 years. Hopefully he has got some gas left in the tank. Jake is right about this being a Monty type team that will grind it out on offense. Lot's of games in low 90's. Do we have the defense to consistently win those type games? That will determine if we have a chance to grab an 7th or 8th seed. And of course staying healthy. With a 8 man rotation getting most of the minutes they must stay healthy this year.

Sportnlyfe
Sportnlyfe

Great post. Lots of deserved optimism here. I'd like to use this comment post to suggest bringing back Aminu (hear me out!), even though leaving him in the rearview mirror was number 2 (after Gordon took Stiemsma's #1 spot) on my addition by subtraction list. I think Aminu would be valuable in a situation where there are no scoring expectations on him, only defending wings and rebounding. With the benefit of two rim protectors behind him, and no real urgency for any offense from him, he could settle into his true NBA destiny as an above average wing defender. My impression of Aminu was that his defensive lapses were related to losing focus, which seemed to me to be mostly about him being anxious about getting his stats and keeping his starter's job. If he's freed up from any expectations to be a two-way player and he can concentrate on just playing the guy in front of him when defense is needed, he has the athletic tools to shut most people down. 

Aminu as a situational defender would no longer need to worry about developing a 3 to stay on the court. Any offense from him would be lagniappe. He'd get his usual cheap baskets on run outs, enough to help justify a salary of 1.5 million for 15-18 minutes a game. A defensive Anthony Morrow, in other words. But nobody would be judging him on how little scoring we get from the SF position. I think that the roster has matured to the point that we need to think proactively about what we'd need for a serious playoff run in the West, and having a designated wing defender, instead of a couple of D-League DNP types at the end of the bench, might pay off down the line. (Yeah, I know! It's Aminu! I was there. I get it. But we're in the stage of just dreaming here, so if not Aminu, then maybe somebody else on a cheap contract with that job description?) 

Pelican Poster
Pelican Poster

Another one off my BSS bucket list for Free Agency/West comparisons.  Thanks and great job guys! Now for some new player jingles...Superfreak for Russ Smith?

jmbell7
jmbell7

Salmons will play more than Babbitt unless something unforeseen happens.

RobertWelch
RobertWelch

@polofr3sh This team doesn't lack for any youth..it lacks for experience. Even if Salmons contributes minimally on the floor, he may well bring much more to the locker room and practice than you might give credit for. If you think that counts for nothing, then I'm sure you also feel Derek Fisher brought nothing to the Thunder the last few years. I'm not saying Salmons is equal to Derek Fisher, but for this team he may serve a similar role...that being a role model for all the younger players how to be a true professional NBA player. Who else on the team really can do that? I don't think any other player has played more than 5 years? There is value in a player like Salmons simply for his long experience in the league, just to keep the team grounded as it were, especially if they start to have success and it starts going to the younger players heads, or worse if they get in a slump and don't have the perspective to keep composed and focused until they can pull out of it. I suspect Dell and Monty were considering this factor when they signed Salmons up.

prpcpa1
prpcpa1

@polofr3sh The only way you won't be proven wrong on just about every point you made is if the Pels have even worse injury luck than they had last year.  I highly doubt it could get worse.  Enjoy watching from afar and PLEASE - no bandwagon jumping for you.

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara moderator

@Larry Lemoine I couldn't disagree with this more, but that is what makes sports so great. We can all have such different predictions and expectations, and at least one of us will be greatly surprised. Can't wait until October to find out. 

Cubancaniac
Cubancaniac

@Sportnlyfe I couldn't agree more, If you want him with anderson, evans, and rivers on the court or an offensive set, not with asik much, but that d guy that could come in... if nothing else for depth for the games where any of our top guards are out!!!

Pelican Poster
Pelican Poster

@Sportnlyfe I'm not sure if we can sign him for that much given his tenure? I agree with the defense and rebounding for sure, but I think its been said that his lack of offensive ability actually hurts our overall offense by reducing the spacing of the opponents defense on the court?

polofr3sh
polofr3sh

@prpcpa1 @polofr3sh im a Anthony Davis and Rivers fan.....

without them on team

this team is so so and not interesting  at all

very similar to Memphis

Jrue is overrated

Tyeke has 5yrs in and still can't shoot

Gordon is 6foot tall playin at the two with no defense and overpaid

Asik isnt the next Shaq like ya'll writers on here are claiming him to be lol dude has zero offense and in the west 

his value doesn't compare to the other big men

so having him isnt enough 2 get in playoffs

willing to bet by december

Patric Young starts over him and contributes more on defense and rebounding

making Demps look more like a joke than before


this was on River's Instagram

austinjrivers New chapter for me.....not worried about what's happened. I can a only control what I do next. And with the way I'm working right now, I like how the future looks! Hard work & God = .....anything possible

Maybe he got word they are gonna waive him 

http://web.stagram.com/n/austinjrivers/


Sportnlyfe
Sportnlyfe

@Pelican Poster Poster, I don't know the rules that well but if N. O. renounced his rights, I think the Pelicans start all over from scratch with him. I think his tenure clock resets and they negotiate his salary based on how they define his role. If we no longer see him as a starter, then it's largely because his lack of offense is a liability. But if he comes back not as a starter, and with no pressure to score, he could be evaluated on how much he does as a situational defender and rebounder. His salary would be comparable to other one skill specialists.