As I liked reading the virtual plan for next year, I have to ask if Porter is the best situation for ticket sales? We may sell more tickets, but this team needs a stud athlete. I understand that porter may be better overall, but if we can't get mclemore or smart, olidipo may be a better fit to put fans in the stands. I think Anderson should play more 3 and with EG's unknown, shoot guard is still a need.
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Hornets Beat: 15 Games Left
This week on Hornets beat we’re talking about the last 15 games, winning versus losing, and what’s in store if we lose enough.
1. What’s your prediction for the Hornets final 15 games?
Mason Ginsberg: 3-12. The Hornets will more than likely only be favored in one of the team’s final 15 games – against the Kyrie-less Cavs at the end of their current homestand. I’ll give them a win there, and then two more out of the following five games: at Utah, at Phoenix, at Sacramento, vs. Dallas, at Dallas. Out of all other remaining games, tonight may be the most winnable, but no Gordon due to back-to-back hurts those odds. The rest are simply brutal – vs. Celtics, vs. Grizzlies, vs. Nuggets, vs. Clippers, vs. Heat, at Lakers, vs. Clippers.
Michael McNamara: I got 3-12 as well. First off, I just don’t see how they win any of these next 6 games. Golden State is probably the worst team of that bunch, but the Hornets will be without Gordon tonight. I got wins over Cleveland, Phoenix, and they will go 1-1 in that home and home with Dallas. The good news is that 25-57 should be good enough for either the third or 4th most ping pong balls, which means a top 5 pick is all but assured.
Andrew Smith: 4-11. I think they’ll beat the Cavs, Suns, Kings, and take one of the final two against the Mavs.
Joe: 4-11. They’ll squeak out a win against someone unexpected, but they’re just not talented to win more than four on the way home. It’s not going to be a fun offseason for Monty, or anyone under contract for next season.
2. Who is the Hornets best player right now?
MG: Anthony Davis. The guy has been on a tear recently, and if not for missing 15 games due to injury, he’d probably be the favorite for rookie of the year over Damian Lillard.
MM: Gotta go with Anthony Davis. He impacts every aspect of the game and always seems to play within himself. Can’t wait to see what new wrinkles he adds to his game this summer. If the Hornets can add a point guard this summer who can actually find him on a semi-regular basis, I think he is a lock to make the All-Star game next season.
AS: Anthony Davis. He’s the best player on our team now and I don’t expect this to change next year after he trains, bulks-up, and improves this summer.
Joe: I can get on board that train. It’s pretty telling that a kid who’s barely 20 years old is the best player on the team.
3. Fact or Fiction: You’re still rooting for the Hornets to win games
MG: Fiction. I hate that my answer is fiction, but it is. As Ryan outlines for us every summer, the odds of drafting a seriously impactful player is significantly greater with a top-5 pick than anything later, so losses now are in the team’s best interest for the future. Ideally, we’ll see continued development from all of the team’s young players while barely coming up short in the end (just like last night’s game in Minnesota).
MM: Fiction, and I am not even embarressed to say so. Look, I still firmly believe that one of the biggest reasons that the Hornets didn’t have a sustainable model of success when CP3 was here was due to the fact that he played too well his rookie season. That should have been a 20-24 win team, tops. Instead, they win 36 games and get Hilton Armstrong as opposed to Aldridge, Roy, or heck, even Rudy Gay. I don’t want to end up with Alex Len, Gary Harris, or Willie Cauley-Stein, which is what would happen if this team went on a 4 or 5 game winning streak right now. Give me some losses now that the season is already done and let me have Smart, Oladipo, McLemore, Shabazz, or Porter instead.
AS: Fact and Fiction. I want the Hornets to win games but if we lose I’m not complaining, it’s kind of hard to explain but I can’t cheer for my team to lose but when we do lose I’m not going to be upset because of the ping pong balls it will bring us.
Joe: Fiction. Ew. I disgust myself, but it is what it is.
4. How many teams would you expect the Hornets to beat in a best of 7 series on a neutral site if all teams were at full strength?
MG: I’ll take the Hornets against four teams for sure – Phoenix, Sacramento, Charlotte, and Orlando. After that, things get dicey. Detroit, Cleveland, and Toronto would all be good games, but I couldn’t confidently pick New Orleans over any of those teams assuming all were healthy.
MM: If it was neutral, Sacramento. Charlotte for sure. Phoenix and Orlando I am a little less confident about, but I would still pick the Hornets if forced to choose. Detroit and Cleveland are banged up and/or playing badly, so I would pick the Hornets over them at present and without Kevin Love the Timberwolves are a horrible team. So, I would say 7 teams for sure.
AS: I’m in the same boat with Mason– four teams. Suns, Kings, Bobcats, and Magic. I don’t think we can beat any other teams at full strength and in a series.
Joe: They’d whoop on Charlotte and Orlando, but I’m not sure that I’d actually favor them to beat anybody else right now.
5. Who are the top three players on your Hornets draft big board?
MG: I’m going to cheat on this question and list my personal “big four”, because I have no one else particularly close – Noel, McLemore, Smart, & Porter. A front court of Noel and Davis in place for the next half dozen plus seasons (at the bare minimum) makes me salivate, especially if Davis can eventually extend his shooting range to the three-point line. Thoughts of a Smart/Gordon backcourt give me a similar reaction, assuming Gordon can return to his 2010-11 season form (which I think he can do after building his endurance back up this offseason). McLemore is the best pure scorer in this class, and Porter seems to me like this draft’s version of MKG.
MM: Ben McLemore, Marcus Smart, and Nerlens Noel in that order. Working backwards, I know that Noel is not a need, but his ceiling is so much higher than any other guy after him that I can’t draft for need over ceiling. Marcus Smart is a cross between Baron Davis and Russell Westbrook on the court, with the intangibles of CP3. He isn’t a headcase like the other two guys, and I really think he fits in well with this new breed of point guards. At #1, I have Ben McLemore, the only guy in this class that I think can put up 25+ ppg in his prime. The three-point shot is so valuable in this new age of basketball, where teams go 1 inside, 4 outside and really try to spread you out. Once McLemore develops a mid-range game, he could be truly unstoppable, and his defense is above average as well.
AS: I’m not the biggest college basketball fan so I’ll have to go from what I’ve learned from the latest Missing Piece and pick McLemore, Smart, and Noel. It’s no coincidence Michael and I have the same top three since he does write the Missing Piece and that’s where I have been going for most of my draft info.
Joe: Smart, Porter, then McLemore. I’d put Noel at the four if I were going to cheat (like Mason), but that’s not how I roll. Frankly I’d be happy with anything in the top four, but there’s something about Porter’s game that really intrigues me. I don’t think we’ll ever really be talking about his potential, but instead his actual production. He’s an instant starter, solving the SF position for the next decade. I’m not even sure what they feels like.
I'm not ashamed to say I'm rooting for losses. I care more about the long-term future of this team than a few meaningless wins. Smart>Porter>McLemore>Noel>Shabazz>Bennett in that order of availability.
Can someone please explain McLemore to me? Even his hoemtown writers and fans acknowledge that he can't really score off the dribble, can't create his own shot, and disappears at the end of games. I get that he is athletic, and an above average defender, both of which are definite plusses. But how does he get the edge over someone like Porter, a solid do-everything kind of guy who has had to do it all by himself. He's got much less talent around him. Not trying to be snarky, I just seriously don't get it.
Bigeauz, I couldn't have said it better. We already rely too much on player A to get player B a good shot. On top of that, McLemore plays the same position as our "best player". If we draft him and he can't get his own shot, he'll have to develop and that will put us farther back from contention. Either that or we need to fill that PG role STAT.
Can't reply to MM's post, so replying to Nate. I'm not trying to knock the kid. I do think he will be good. What I'm scared of is this: we do get him, and manage to offload Gordon. That leaves us with only a handful of guys who can get their own shot, the best of which is (currently)....Vasquez. I understand no one is perfect coming out of school, and his lack of mid range doesn't bother me. I can see how that will come. What I don't see is eveidence that he will all of a sudden turn into a respected slasher or dribble/pull up guy. I think if he is your starting 2 on this team, you have to have a first option type of PG who will be able to draw enough defenders to consistently kick out. That's a big load and makes our PG spot harder to fill when he's the only one that can do that. I don't expect him to be complete, I just don't understand how this team uses him right now. I know I'm looking short term...
Are there any 19 or 20 year olds who are complete players? Was Anthony Davis? When you are looking at ANY guy that young, you will find warts. It becomes about: What can he do well? How likely is he to improve his weaknesses and/or how detrimental would it be if he never got good in that area? With McLemore, his shooting is already elite, as is his athleticism. He is a plus defender with the potential to be elite, a semi-elite rebounder for his position, and has good intangibles. His mid range game is below average, but Kobe and LeBron had zero mid-range game coming into the league. That is usually the last thing perimeter scorers develop. On top of that, the least efficient shot is the mid-range shot. You look at a super efficient guy like James Harden and 70% of his shots come at the rim or behind the three-point line. Long story short, no he is not a perfect prospect, but nobody is. He has the least amount of glaring flaws and/or flaws that kill a team