In the NO Podcast Episode 105: Is Vasquez Selfish?

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Published: December 17, 2012
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Michael and I spend a lot of time talking about Vasquez, his game, his numbers, and his possible impact on Austin Rivers development going forward. Then Michael calls out Anthony Davis, we take turns calling out every player on this team that spends time at small forward, trash the team’s defense, and stare dreamily at Ryan Anderson.

I’m growing a beard to be just like him. Except fat. And not 6’9″. Or able to shoot. Or rich. But other than that, exactly like him.

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jimmy carella
jimmy carella

Who ensures that Vasquez cannot develop his game? And who ensures that Austin Rivers will not a new Julian Wright? I love Vasquez and think anyone who likes the Hornets should also notice the good things that he combines in his game. Tell me about Robin Lopez ... Someone out there is happy with Lopez being our starter at center? Why don't you never say anything?

mojart
mojart

well everybody has their case....everybody has a point....like it or not our team is still losing and we can't stop it...enough of the arguments...maybe we should talk about on how to stop this losing streak....share your thoughts, opinion and ideas....i love everybody who share their thoughts on this matter....the passion and love for the hornets is there...everybody is not giving up on the season..lets continue and build on it...i miss winning and i know all of you here are too....be patient....our time will come....so everybody PEACE...geaux hornets....we are one team here....

Icebird
Icebird

When a basketball player is described as "selfish" we usually think of someone who only looks for their own shot, and ignores their team mates (think "Kobe playing hero ball"). That's not Vasquez, but you could describe him as selfish in a different way, in terms of how much of every offensive possession he takes up handling the ball. How many possesions have we seen him walk up, gesture to his team mates a few times, wait for the screen, try to make a play off the pick and roll, back out and go through the whole process again? You could make the argument that by handling the ball so much Vasquez is slowing down Rivers' development. Vasquez can make some great plays, both making shots, and passing to willing scorers. But he can also be pressured into turnovers, and sometimes runs half-court sets at glacial speed. I think he would make an above-average back-up PG, but given the number of high-quality point guards in the league at the moment, I find it hard to project him as a starter beyond this year.

Jack
Jack

You know what. I am done with this argument. I am clearly a Vasquez fan. But I am not unreasonably high on him. I have been watching this guy so long that I know he has limitations. On the other hand, I want fans and bloggers to be fair about players. As well as I know Vasquez, he wants to lead the team to win, but that doesn't mean he wants him self to be over the team. He is such a team player. He keeps thinking how to get his teammate involved, fighting for the rebounds/hustles, of course taking shots when the team needed. If you blame the last shot he took, how do you know it is not Monty asked him to do it. So before you ask the question is 'he is selfish?', you should question Monty about what he said. Then I will know you are fair! For Vasquez, I wish him getting more wins than more points/assist. If the team can find a great point guard to start, I am happy to see him backing up. If not, I appreciate his fighting in performance every game. Btw, this is his third NBA season. Given his physical limitations, I think he has not reached the ceiling yet. I expect to see him doing more.

mateor
mateor

Did you guys know Eric Gordon tweets rehab updates with the hashtag #silentasssassin. I have the good taste to leave that alone...but that is funny.

mojart
mojart

many people here don't watch hornets basketball...they just google vasquez statistics and paste it here and try to make a case that he is one of the best PG in the nba today...sorry....watch him play

Louisianimal
Louisianimal

Eric Gordon tweeted that he would be back with the hornets next week!

okithor
okithor

I tried to watch the game for both Portland and the Hornets with only trying to say good shot/bad shot for every shot taken. A good shot is a wide open shot, a squared up jump shot, a blow by to the rim, a clean alley op, etc. A bad shot is end of the shot clock fling/bail out attempt, shooting without being squared up with a defender in your face, over penetrating and getting stuck in the air in the lane with no where to go, etc. Now sometimes good shots miss and bad shots go in, but an offense should try to generate as many good shots as possible. Using this method I was surprised at how many bad shots the Hornets take in a row on offense. There were times where the bad shot count got up to 5! 5! in a row. And it happened several times. I am not down or up on Vasquez like so many on the site. He has some good skills and some things are lacking. I do believe can be an invaluable backup guard on a playoff team, because does have some unique skills. +He seems to have close to elite skills on finishing going to hoop with an array of scoop shots and floaters. It is pretty amazing actually that he can finish so consistently with some of the angles that he has to shot at. +He can find the open man on the break. +He can find the open man in a set play. +Because of his size he can rebound. +He can post up smaller guards and finish. -Decision making. I.e. When he goes to the rim he has the Jarrett Jack syndrome of deciding before hand to shot. Of course, he is a good finisher so it can lead to bucket, but he doesn't ever do any improvisation with a dump off pass or kick out. Therefore, the penetration may not lead the best shot or even a good shot. -Defense. -He can be pressured full court which leads to turnovers, bad shots, low shot clock. Hmmm, the guard should be the guy that breaks the pressure and makes the defense pay. Any NBA guard should take it as an insult if a defense tries to full court him. -Frustrating/Foolish turnovers.

Emac
Emac

Vasquez has improved in many ways from last year. He is a solid pro with the skills to be a rotation guy and valued contributor....but....game by game it becomes more apparent that his inability to stop penetration is killing our defense and a primary reason for our putrid 3-point defense. Likewise his lack of speed with the ball limits our offense. He's got some game and I like his toughness, but we need an upgrade at PG to challenge in the west.

Venreader
Venreader

Ryan why don´t you make a Podcast´entitled: Do we really hate Vasquez? It would be more honest from you than uncovering the situation asking whether Vasquez has the problem of being selfish...

Ben
Ben

Vasquez is a solid backup pg. He does make those around him better. But his stats are way inflated. He's like Damian Lilliard. He plays a ton and when he plays, our offense is run through him. He is bound to put up stats the way we use him. But I would love to see rivers get the opportunities Vasquez has.

JayDogon
JayDogon

I always liked Jarrett Jack last year, I never really understood the hate. Hard worker, passionate about the game of basketball and a consummate professional. I really do miss him and Landry though I can understand why both are no longer here. I think in hindsight we may have preferred to keep Jack over Vasquez but we didn't know Greivis' lack of speed would 'cause this much of a problem for him. He can't be THAT much slower than Rubio, can he?? Anyway, it's good to see Jack and Landry doing their thing because they both showed the type of effort players should play with even when your team is destined to be a cellar dweller last year. Geaux Hornets

BrickCity
BrickCity

This may sound a little crazy, but isn't Vasquez the same size, if not bigger, than Henry -- and a better rebounder? If we had a true PG, does anyone see a way that Vasquez could play the SF (a la Tyreke Evans)? Obviously we lose some rebounding vs Aminu, but we get a real offensive threat at the 3, something this team desperately needs. Trade Aminu & Henry; get us a replacement level PG, who starts, & play Vasquez at the 3 for 36 minutes a game, and we'd be a much better offensive & ball-handling team, and with Vasquez guarding 3's, maybe no worse defensively as well! Crazy?

Jack
Jack

It is funny how some people looked at the game differently. Vasquez had turnovers early in the game indeed. But you can't be double standard. He had 9 points and 3 assists in the fourth quarter. He brought the team back, then you are asking if he is selfish. Yes, he used a lot of possessions. The team doesn't have a lot of options. You know what, Monty likes him because he can execute the limited plan the team can run at this moment. Bring Eric Gordon back or ask Rivers to be as efficient as last game, then you will see a less 'selfish' Vasquez.

baton_finn
baton_finn

Ok... Vasquez isn't an elite PG, but he's a good PG. I would say that Vasquez might be the best backup PG in the league. And I don't consider him selfish. I think the Hornets have serious problems in the SF position and need a reliable center. And I don't think it's fair to blame Vasquez for everything bad that happens with the team. Our team isn't good, and the fault isn't of Vasquez. He does what he can and misses more than the others because it's he who has the ball in his hands. Rajon Rondo, who's an elite PG, committed 14 TO in their last two games. If the terrible Aminu had the ball in his hands, or even Rivers, they end up with much more TO than Vasquez. Can you imagine? Anyway, I think you should be less strict with Vasquez. Chris Paul is already past. Try to forget him for just 1 minute. Just 1. That would be too much to ask? Thank you.

Juan
Juan

These podcast always help me get through these difficult loses. It's refreshing to listen to you guys to help aid our growing pains. All I want for x-mas is Vasquez trade!

Gary
Gary

Stats don't matter. Vasquez misses so many opportunities and only seems to trust himself with the outcome of the game.

Lucas Ottoni
Lucas Ottoni

Vasquez selfish? Are you kidding me? He has 9 assists per game passing the ball - every nights - to bad players like Lopez, Henry, Mason, Thomas, Aminu... And you still debate whether he is selfish? C'mon guys...

lol
lol

Hornets should be more than happy they didnt lost this game by 17+ the way they were playing till last quarter and i see some hornets fans and hornets players talking about the lucky shot but they have to remember the summer league Lillard did the same like last night and everyone knows he-Lillard is a great Shoter and had a 200x better season so far than any other rookie out there but yes its true it was one of his worst game but as we see even one of his worst game is still 10x better and much fun to watch than Davis best game Lillard will allways have better career than Davis even after he get his ROY reward he is being better and better every day

Cris
Cris

First off shout out from your International fan base, enjoy your podcasts every week. I think Vasquez could be a good second unit player,I don't see Vasquez as our future PG, Ball security is an issue with his TO rate and he doesn't always look for the simple play often trying to pull off the more difficult play, Vasquez Defense is suspect at best and because of his size and speed the quicker guards in the league blow by him, he also gets into trouble when teams put full court pressure on him bringing the ball up. Austin Rivers is making progress and starting to work things out with his steady contributions over the last stretch of games. Rivers progress could slow whenever Eric Gordon returns, Its also hard to define our back-court with out seeing Eric Gordon on the floor playing with Vasquez and Rivers. I think with Rivers showing he can score late in games, Gordon & Rivers should be on the floor together down the stretch rather then Vasquez. Brandon Jennings(who Dell Demps tried to acquire at the deadline last season) is a RFA and the end of the yr, you would think Dell Demps will make a run at signing Jennings. So I would expect to see Monty assessing Vasquez and his future with the team as the season goes on.

mojart
mojart

sometimes stats are overrated.....

Ying Sun
Ying Sun

Can you e-mail and leave a voice recording? Holla at your international fans?

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