It's unorthodox. Phil's the type of coach that HAS to account for everything. so throwing a bunch of lineups that make Gasol and Bynum together on the floor ridiculous is exactly what the Hornets need. (Lineups would be Magic Style like Paul-Jack-Green- Ariza- Mbenga.) It drives him nuts. Make them play unusual. Hopefully he takes Bynum out. (It's his MO, and then the Hornets can pound them because Gasol's going to be taking fade aways, Hornets get the board if he misses. The refs only call the games fair when either Okafor or Landry are in foul trouble. I think that gets all the Laker-biased calls out of the referee's system. And then they realize that if the game continues, there's going to be accusations. (1 good thing Tim was for.), meaning they have to call the game SLIGHTLY tinted in the Hornets' favor. May Monty find more Youtube Highlights. (Show that Dunk for Motivation would work.)
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Lakers assert their size and beat the Hornets
Yes, the turnovers hurt pretty bad, but the real story of that game was the Lakers simple dominance on the glass. The Hornets couldn’t get an offensive rebound to save their lives, and the Lakers either out-muscled or out-reached the Hornets for multiple second chance points. With the Hornets already struggling defensively, their inability to keep the Lakers one and done on the shots they did miss was killer. Honestly, I was hoping for a little more Aaron Gray in there as the Hornets struggled mightily inside.Â In the end, the Lakers outrebounded the Hornets by 17, and more importantly, had 15 offensive rebounds to the Hornets 3.
The strangest part was how little the rest of the team contributed on the glass.Â The Hornets make an impact on the board by team rebounding.Â All the wings and guards combined for 8 total rebounds when the game mattered.(And Paul had half of them, of course)Â That lack of help is insupportable against a team like the Lakers.
On their part, the Lakers did do a nice job limiting Paul in the game – forcing him to the edges instead of allowing him into the paint.Â The result was a 20-point, 12-assist game, with Paul only taking 12 shots.Â That’s still great, but he really needed another ball-handler out there to help him get away from their defensive traps, but Jack was failing miserably and Belinelli was shooting well but a disaster off the dribble.
Ariza did come to play.Â He went 5-8 from three, and was attacking.Â His defense was not quite as on today,Â as he repeatedly let Kobe get the step on him as he reached to poke the ball loose.
- As I said in the game preview, Bryant’s “injury” was bad for the Hornets. The Lakers got more than 10 shots for each of their big men, and as they have all series, turned those shots into easy points, free throws, or easy putbacks if they did miss. Add Bryant’s own efficiency to the mix, and it was all around bad.
- Belinelli finally had one of his superior shooting nights, and it kept the game close through the first half.Â Sadly, he was a big part of the issues on the boards, as Artest would get into the paint, hold Belinelli off with one hand, and then get a body on another Hornet at the same time, making the offensive boards easy to come by.
- Jack was awful. Driving out of control, had trouble getting anywhere, wasn’t playing off anyone well, and was turning the ball over left and right. It’s hard to play 13 minutes and get a -16 +/-. Jack did it tonight, and deserved it.
- Landry had his first truly off night scoring in this series, and man, he couldn’t catch a break.
- Monty needs to remember Gray for next game.Â More Gray!
- Okafor has 12 defensive boards for the entire series.Â For a guy I was so high on for a lot of the regular season, he’s being badly exposed. (Hat tip to Haubs of the Painted Area blog for that stat nugget)
Next game is Thursday at the Hive.Â Do or die.Â Be there.
Brilliant and crazy idea to win Game 6: #1 Bring Marco Belinelli off the bench and replace him with Quincy Pondexter. (Could be used by itself.) Reasons: - Belinelli has a major strength disadvantage against Artest. It meant that if Marco ended up on Kobe. Kobe would have a made bucket. It would be 1 thing if that was the game plan, but itâ€™s not. â€“ Artest is buying the Laker Bigs a critical second to grab a board because heâ€™s blocking out Marco and delaying Landry (though sometimes Okafor) a critical second. â€“ it would improve our bench. Remember Game 5 where Jack couldnâ€™t hit a shot and the only bench producers were Willie (who showed why it was Marcus who was traded for Landry and not him,) and Gray. - Monty already plays that 3-guard lineup and bringing Marco off the bench instead of Pondexter would mean improved production for ALL the bench players. â€“ Matt Barnes and Steve Blake are not Ron Artest. â€“ Marco can get more points without Artest on him. â€“ This frees up some space for Green to continue showing why they kept him instead of Marcus, and it might allow Jack to get an easier shot, which would then be followed with shooterâ€™s mode of confidence and hitting more shots. This next 1 sounds insane but makes sense if you stop and think. #2 Bring Landry off the bench in favor of Mbenga. Reasons why this would be helpful: â€“ Landry on Odom works a hell lot better than Jason Smith â€“ You now double your amount of starters who understand how the Lakers operate â€“ Mbenga plays solid defense on Gasol â€“ For all their heralded depth and height, the Lakers are remarkably thin. Odom is the only bench big man that is ever actively for than a couple of games at a time. â€“ It means that the Lakers only get production out of Bynum OR Gasol (or nothing.) Bynumâ€™s production comes from him successfully winning the matchup with Okafor. (Mbengaâ€™s on Gasol. I donâ€™t remember Gasol ever scoring with an inside move while being guarded by Smith/Mbenga/Gray.) Gasolâ€™s production means he hits his fadeaway jumpshots. (How can Bynum be effective when they arenâ€™t any rebounds to snare.) No production: Gasol canâ€™t hit the fadeaways as he getting guarded by Okafor. #3 Bring Okafor off the bench as well and start Aaron Gray. â€“ A Bench of Jack/Green/Marco/Landry/Smith/Okafor is better than Odom with about 10 points of help from Blake/Barnes/Brown. (Brown scares me more than Kobe. Kobe dunks so many times itâ€™s normal, and it means heâ€™s in HOG mode. Brown dunking or hitting 3s means helping Bryant by getting him rest, and taking pressure off of Odom.) I firmly believe that if Artest/Gasol/Bynum have to work for their offense other than fadeaways the Hornets can win the series. Mbenga drew blood on Gasol and has the run the fastbreak and knows the Lakers. Now we understand why Mbenga was kept, and understanding the reasons has earned my respect. Plus all Mbenga has to do is put of numbers like he was coming off the bench in the point department. The other bigs can take care of scoring. If Monty does this, the bench will be improve because of the bench will have more Odom players than the Lakers. (starters who are healthy but arenâ€™t actually starting game to game.) Freeing up Marco, Landry, and Okafor from Gasol, Bynum and Artest will improve their production. Screw it Gray and Mbenga just need to give us about 12-18 points a game, as long as they get the rebounds and make Lakersâ€™ offense actually taxing on the Lakers. Pondexter just has to provide with about 8 as well. Let Paul and Ariza contribute do most of the work and wear down the last two weapons for the Lakers in Kobe and Fisher. On top of that, Smith can be subbed in for either Mbenga or Gray if they get into foul trouble but the Lakersâ€™ bigs of Gasol and Bynum are still out there. (Funny if the Lakers wanted to be as good as possible, it should have been Gasol coming off the bench instead of Odom.)
I am sorry Hornets247 the game 5 loss was obviously my fault. Â You see I posted on the forum that I wanted the Hornets to win so badly. Â The problem is as a boy I had a curse placed on me by a bayou gypsy so that whatever I wanted badly in this world would not come true. Â Therefore, whatever happens in game six I want the Laker to WIN!!!!!! Â You heard that Lakers WIN!!!! Â Hmmm...wait a sec....if I want to the Lakers to win then that means the Hornets will win.... but maybe the gypsy knows that I trying to get the Hornets to win. Â Damn it gypsy women!!!! You ARE good!!! Â I want the Hornets to win!!!! Hear that gypsy??!!?? Hornets are gonna win!!! hmmmm....crap maybe she doesn't know....hmmm... Â Ok if you aren't listening gypsy Lakers win!!!! There has to be able to work this in my favor!!!!
If your Gypsy is the Refs no matter what you ask for, She will want the Lakers to win. Even the Lakers fans say so! :) So, they don't deny that the refs support them... :) You just want the Hornets to win and I am sure they will come out and play a helluva game to win! So, don't worry about the Gypsy refs... :) Geaux Hornets!
Now all we need is the Lakers to figure that part out. That would put them in a bad situation. No Scratch That. Phil Jackson would freak!
Heck get Mek or Carl into foul trouble early. cuz due to Timmy D. (the crook, not Duncan.) the referees are very acutely sensitive to accusations, meaning that they gotta call the rest of the game slightly Hornet-tinted or else face accusations of Laker favoritism.
If anybody gets calls, and complains about everything, it's Chris Paul. He's right there in the same mold with Kobe, Fisher, and the rest. He does it because it works. The weakest analysis of any game centers on "unfair" calls. What's far more important is the fact the Lakers just plain steamroll the Hornets inside on both ends of the floor. Whatever difference the calls may amount to does not compare to the difference of quality play inside. Going forward, with or without Chris, in NOLA or elsewhere, the Hornets have to address that problem. Getting David West back, not a guarantee by any means, does not solve the problem. Aaron Gray shows more fight than Emeka and has a better shooting touch too. He's one guy whose status in the league has been elevated tremendously by this high-profile series. But Aaron is not a starting center.
Look if Chris Paul is arguing a call, there's a reason. I mean, come to think of it, even when the opponent picks up fouls that obviously shouldn't have been called. (Dirk anyone?) He has the same reaction to every call that he thinks didn't go right. Whether the Hornets benefit from it or not.
Ummm... You are a little confused. Gray is just lots bigger than okafer and can take the pushing and elbowing better. Sorry but gray is a terrible shooter. His high percentage shots have been generated by CP3. That doens't mean he hasn't been playing great but your comments are off. Secondly, Cp didn't get any calls last night. Yeah, he does flop every so often but we are talking about constant bias in game 5 that changed the momentum and course of the game. Not flopping. We are talking about the "flagrant" foul were cp went for the ball on kobe in game 4 and got screwed. We are talking about him getting a black eye from an intentinal elbow from artest, about no shooting fouls on an obvious shot, and constant contact from him driving and only 8 free throws. Ps. Steamrolling is something that should describe a goalline offense in football. Not getting rebounds from going over the back in basketball.
This video has a good amount of the questionable calls though not all of them. Just about all of these calls are in LA's favor, and if not all, I think we all could agree that MOST go in LA's favor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql1u-HF9axY
Spread that link everywhere you go. That way people are going to click on it. The Laker-Hornets Series is the cream of the crop of the entire 1st Round Series. (Cuz it's 6 games, and the Hornets still have a chance to win the series.) You can purchase NBA Playoffs from as far as 08-09 in standard definition for $2.17 (including tax) on iTunes. They also have some classic regular season games. HD games which started for last years costs $3.26 (including tax), It's best to start an iTunes account with an iTunes card instead of a credit or debit card. It's easier to mentally get an idea of how much you are actually spending that way per month.
This game was what I had feared coming into the series. Also, I hadn't considered the fact that our leading rebounders had been guys like CP and Ariza. Really all Landry and Emeka can do is try to prevent a Bynum or Gasol or Odom from cleanly grabbing the ball so the other Hornets can get to it. Also, I feel like Emeka just can't get a break with the fouls. Not only is he undersized, but the refs seem to blow the whistle if he is even thinking about getting in the way of a shot. I agree that he has been exposed and is at a huge disadvantage, but if you add in the ref factor it just seems impossible. Speaking of the refs, the Hornets have a much better chance when they can push the issue and draw fouls imo. Hopefully the ball bounces are way back home. Let's go Hornets!
I agree on the Emeka part. Like I've been saying, Bynum is good but he ain't THAT damn good to where the whistle has to blow everytime he exhales. They know that Bynum is needed in this series and he can go to work even moreso when the Hornets bigs are riding the bench. Like you said, if Emeka even attempts to play defense or attempts to alter to a shot, BLEEEEEEP, whistle. And I thought the officials would be better in the postseason because even more people would be watching, but they are bold. Bold as hell.
Everyone here is just pissed off that cp3 is going to leave your sad excuse of a team and all you guys will have is green and jack. Haha. Bitch about officiating all you want but the fact of the matter is that the composition off your team sucks. I feel sorry for you that you think you guys have a chance. This team is cp3 plus dleague. Queen bee, come and get some just like how okafor got some from kobe. Cp3 going to come to lakers.
Lakers lost twice to that D-League team. Wow. Sucks to be them. It's one thing to be a horrible, disfigured guy. It's quite another thing to be the guy whise girlfriend went down on said disfigured guy. Twice. I hope enjoy kissing your girlfriend...
This makes me sad and lose hope for our Team. I don't care if i get a million thumbs down. WE are the better team and deserve to advance to the next round. The Lakers and the Refs have been cheating this WHOLE series...this is a movie film in the making! They want the lakers to win and the only way we'll win is if we're avoiding ALL contact and knocking down threes from hell alllllll game and make records or something "insane". This just is not fair...We are a good damn team. We deserve a championship.
The league HAS to review that elbow from Shannon Brown. How can a dude swing an elbow by Willie Greens face right IN FRONT of the ref and not get ejected? An elbow is way more malicious than a fist. I hope Stern watches MMA cause then he'd know...
It's called playing the Lakers. It's allowed called league's unwillingness to suspend after Robert Horry destroyed the Suns by hip-checking Steve Nash. It cost CHI in that legendary series Game 5. Rondo himself even admitted in every way short of words that it should have been a flagrant foul. Game 6. Rondo throws Kirk Hinrich a la Horry. He gets a Flagrant 2 which is then AMAZING downgraded to a Flagrant 1. No Suspensions whatsoever, unlike Horry who got something like 2 games.
Modern diehard Lakers' fans ( an oxymoron, they're all band wagoners I think) and Modern diehard Celtics' fans expect every call and complain even if it is completely obvious that it was a foul/turnover. Every other fan, if it's OBVIOUS what the call is, we'll upset and moan and groan at the PLAYERS, Modern diehard fans of Boston and Lakers just blame the refs. I will say this though, for all the physical play, they have class when it's all said and done. Boston's fans give a respect that is grudgingly given. Magic Johnson said after a Game in the 1991 Finals (I think Game 3) that he didn't feel bad because he put it as "the Bulls just gave us a nice butt whooping.: Neo-Laker Fans suck. (The bandwagons, not the guy who grew with grandparents since the days of Mikan and all of that.) Dwayne Wade said describing a steal from John Salmons @ home against Chicago at the end of the 2nd overtime that went cross-court and put in the game-winning 3. [Think that prepared the Bulls for the Celtics series and make it epic.] You're in the moment, and you don't really register the moment until "it's all said and done." Wade might as well been describing where in Game 2 Kobe had the ball go off his legs out of bounds. And either the referee understood it or he was wearing about Fisher and Artest. (Because those two guys are actually the most likely guys to get ejected. Artest - his reputation. Fisher- various ManuRE plays. (Unless Manu becomes a Hornet, [never], he was always be ManuRE Ginboili )
Same reason you didn't see any 'assistant coach' comments. Agendas. People don't want to just accept the team and the time it'll take to improve.
Because they are week as mofos and I have a friend, who is a big Laker fan and he said that they were gonna sweep us, I said, I'm not saying anything, I let CP3 and co. do the talking and he shut up, but now at 3 2 he started to brag how Lakers lack of motivation lead to this 3 2 series and in his mind there was no doubt that they were gonna win the series, I said, that he's full of crap and that if there is a game 7, if we win tomorrow game 6 that he'll be still saying that that's because of lack of motivation, I was so pissed at him, man, he's a great friend but he's so biased when it comes to the Lakers and his beloved Kobe, he would suck Kobes dick ih Kobe said so, GTFO Laker fans from here, this is HORNETS24/7, I HOPE WE WIN tomorrow game 6 and we'll see how many of y'all will come here, after wins y'all brag, after losses you SHUT UP, and now you better shut the fuck up because when you talk to much things don't happen quite well in reality...I've hated the Laker fans and the whole Lakers association since day 1, case closed, NOLA ALL THE WAY, stand up and crunk tomorrow at game 6, LET'S GO WILD and LET'S whoop some LAKER CANDY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I had to do it guys) WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOO WOOOO Give me a hell yeah!?
Yep, look and listen closely at the CP3 postgame, you can feel the buzz and he's so excited to come back home to NOLA, IMO it's going to be BLAZING like he said and ROCKING at the Hive and IMO it's a definite WIN!!!
WOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I love it!! LMAO!!! Candy ass jabroni's. LOL! I'm still in shock though that it seems the Lakers need the officials help with the Hornets not having their leading scorer even playing in this series. Man oh man.
So, yeah, not going to bother dignifying the stereotyping remarks with a response, but any team's fans are going to fixate on the bad calls his team gets. I'm not going to pretend I don't. If you're the better team, you overcome that and find a way to win. It's just a weak copout when you play the ref card. I hate it just as much when Laker fans do it and I'll be the first to admit that Kobe should've gotten 324234 technicals this season with as much as he complains. We didn't lose game 4 because of the non-called flagrant when Kobe got hacked in the face, we lost it because we got our butts kicked on all the 50/50 balls. In a seven game series, the better team wins. If NOLA turns out to be the better team, then I'd be infuriated but would still have to tip my cap to them. If we win the series, I expect that the Hornets will still give us a helluva game. I expect that CP3 and crew would sack up and not make up excuses for why they lost. I'd hope their fans would be able to follow suit.
You can say all the sh!t since your team is the one benefitting. Come tell me the same thing when you are rooting for a small market team.
I am sorry Kehn, but I not only watch basketball and Hornets. I watch many team sports and can tell when the refs are biased. So, please do not write here and tell me that I am biased since I support the Hornets. I can easily tell the difference between a game in which the calls favor one team versus another. Since you are a Lakers fan maybe you do not live the situation a whole lot because seems like the refs are always (sorry, let's say most of the time) biased towards you. Check out the photos of last nights game and see Kobe elbowing Okafor, Brown throwing elbows to Green, Odom holding Landry from his shoulders, Bynum throwing elbows to Okafor. Pay attention to the games and see how easy the calls on Hornets defense when they even barely touch the Lakers versus how difficult the calls on Lakers defense (or offense) even if they bang the Hornets with elbows and knees. So yeah, you are saying that we should "overcome the bad calls" and beat the 15-man Lakers squad (12 players+3 refs). That is exactly what we did on Sunday night and I am hoping that we will do it again tomorrow. Then, I hope some miracle will happen and we will watch FAIR refereeing in the 7th game in LA so that we will not have to overcome the refs but the Lakers only!!!. If you beat us without the momentum that you receive from the refs time to time, kudos to you. I believe No Hornets fan denies that LA Lakers are one of the best teams in the league today. These are not excuses Kehn this is the reality! Can you accept it???
im not just gonna thumb that up. I'm gonna say - HELL YEAH these are one of the times i bitch about the refs because im so proud of how far our team has gone i'm not gonna let them go without a fight. so i'm gonna bitch all day until this series ends because i believe every thing counts. Watch the games. Hornets have a hard time playing defense, and they still do! Lakers, for the most part(although there are times that they play great defense), just push and bully because they have the size and the entitlement.
Kehn... In the real world, the better team doesn't always win a seven game series. That's why you play the games. Even if the Hornets were to win this series, the Lakers are still the better, more talented team. But the Hornets would have been better in THIS series. The problem is, the refs do their best to MAKE SURE the more talented team ALWAYS wins. If that's how its going to be, why have playoffs? Just give whomever wins the most games the trophy.
I finally figured it out. I don't hate the Lakers, I hate the Lakers fans. And you know why? Its not that their team gets preferential treatment. Some of them even admit that. What really gets me is, they feel that its the natural order of things. They feel that's the way it should be. They should get preferential treatment. And THAT'S what really pisses me off.
yeah i was surprise that aaron gray didnt play much. when he was in in the first half we at least had an player getting rebounds.
Yeah i dont usually make excuses too but common, Kobe, Odom, even Steve Blake cry cry cry and yell at the refs, no technicals, Bynum just backs Okafor down and Okafor gets a foul by simply standing his ground, like wtf seriously? Ive never bitched so much in a series about bad reffing, its unbelievable. Lets also talk about that foul on Chris Paul, he knew he was getting fouled so all in one motion he shot it from half court. He does that ALL THE TIME!!!!! ITS A FOUL and he should be awarded 3 SHOTS!! Its so dumb how they wont give that to him, it makes me furious, thats Chris Paul being smart, thats all it is. But ok don't call it, you havent called shit for us anyways. Hornets need to come out to play better then ever in Game 6, an then unfortunately Game 7 is a game the Hornets can't win if the refs make the same calls that they have been making..simple as that
Don't remember back in 07-08 Game 7 end of the first quarter, Paul does the same thing Ginoblili comes over, They don't call a foul because the attempt "occured after the buzzer" ManuRE (hehe) clearly fouls him before the buzzer and thus stops the shot until after the buzzer. That turned the whole momentum the Spurs' way until Jannero Pargo tried his best MJ impression and getting us within a single 3 from the West Finals. We shoulda BEAT THE LAKERS A BIG 3 YEARS AGO IF IT WEREN'T FOR ManuRE!
Emeka has been awful. He has been worked while playing close defense by Bynum all series, and has provided absolutely no interior presence for Lakers driving to the lane. He was caught out of position - ball-watching - multiple times last night on passes from the top of the key to the interior for easy dunks. He doesn't even warrant offensive consideration by the Lakers defense, so they are happy to slide and swarm those inside or driving. Emeka can barely handle passes to him (especially last night), so the Lakers bigs always know they have an extra second to slide should someone pass him the ball in the interior
And, I'd like to know whose the guy going through and thumbs downing anyone pointing out bad officiating? If you don't agree, thats fine. Doesn't make it a bad comment.
That's an entirely subjective view. I can thumbs down your comment because i think its a bad comment, thus i do not agree with it. Who are you to say whether a comment is good in the eyes of other people or not. Obviously since you posted it, you won't think your comment is "bad", otherwise you would not have posted it!