Season in Review: Jrue Holiday

Published: May 28, 2014

The Acquisition

It would be hard to start a Jrue Holiday season recap without first mentioning how he was acquired.  On the night of the 2014 NBA Draft, the Pelicans traded the #6 pick (Nerlens Noel) and next year’s pick (which became the 10th pick after the lottery) for Jrue Holiday and the rights to Pierre Jackson.

Critics immediately questioned the deal, speculating that the Pelicans gave up too many assets and too much financial flexibility for Jrue, who was considered a fine piece but not worthy of the haul the 76ers poached from the Pelicans. It has been a widely discussed topic in NBA circles this season and will likely remain a heavily trafficked topic until the Pelicans make a splash in the playoffs. Anthony Davis’s presence will force the team’s decisions under a microscope for as long as he is here.

But discussing the ramifications of the Jrue trade is another piece for another time. For now, I’d like to focus on Jrue the player: where he was, where he is, and where he is going.

The Story of Past Seasons

Special thanks to Kyle Neubeck of Liberty Ballers and Crab Dribbles for the information below, which describes Jrue’s time in Philadelphia.

Jrue Holiday’s time in Philadelphia was more about the idea of what he could become rather than who he was as a player. With the Sixers still stuck in a cycle of mediocrity, he was tasked with running a team and readjusting to playing the point after being moved off the ball at UCLA. He was able to squeeze assists out of a roster devoid of shooters / scorers, but that was offset by a bit of a turnover problem. His pick and roll proficiency was (and likely is) still a bit of a mystery due to a lack of athletic bigs alongside him, which made the Bynum saga especially crushing. Holiday’s biggest offensive issue was his aversion to contact, which kept his free throw attempts low and put way too much pressure on him to knock down shots. On nights when they weren’t falling, his value plummeted.

Defensively is where Holiday has probably received the most adulation, and rightfully so. When he was engaged, he showed the length and the quickness to corral even the best ball-handlers, an important skill given the amount of quality guards currently in the league. His main issue was something that afflicts many young players: being too aggressive. Whether that manifested itself in overzealous isolation defense or jumping into passing lanes, Holiday was still figuring out when and when not to gamble defensively. It’s a small complaint given his proficiency on D, but not an unnoticeable one.

The most important thing to note is Holiday is 23 and still learning, and hasn’t necessarily had the proper tools around him to develop. Assuming health — his injury in New Orleans is the first major time he has ever missed — he projected as a great secondary piece on a good team, or capable of being the primary option for a middling team. With a big man like Anthony Davis, I think you’ll see what he’s really capable of within the next couple seasons.

The Story of this Season

Preseason/Beginning of the season

First 8 Games


Jrue Holiday’s assimilation into the New Orleans Pelicans lineup was hardly smooth. He struggled in the preseason with turnovers and appeared to have trouble finding his niche in the Pelicans offense.  Ryan Anderson’s absence due to injury only exacerbated Jrue’s struggles.  To start the season, Pelicans fans were treated to a steady diet of midrange jumpers and stagnant offense. The Pelicans were failing to capitalize on a favorable early schedule and Jrue’s difficult transition only compounded the damage.

Rest of Season

Final 26 Games

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But Jrue soon adapted to the team and became exactly what optimistic fans had envisioned for the budding 23 year old point guard. His assists per game spiked, his turnovers went down, and he began to find his role within the Pelicans squad; that role varied by night. In some games, it was the role of Jrue the defender, and in others it was Jrue the facilitator. Sometimes he just chose to take over, as he did in the game versus Portland (video below). And though I will complain about Jrue’s hesitance to attack in certain situations later in this article, he has a very good feel of when to find others and when to take it himself.

The Injury

On Friday, January 10th, it was announced that Jrue Holiday would be out indefinitely from a stress fracture in his tibia. Whatever slim chance the Pelicans had of making the playoffs was all but eliminated, and the announcement was especially crushing because it occurred just a few days after Ryan Anderson suffered a serious injury.

Career Statistics Evolution

Advanced Statistics 

2009-10 19 73 12.3 .526 .502 .165 .306 3.7 9.1 6.4 24.4 2.3 21.9 18.4
2010-11 20 82 15.4 .525 .487 .209 .222 2.7 10.5 6.6 29.0 2.2 16.7 20.8
2011-12 21 65 14.7 .496 .471 .144 .205 2.9 7.9 5.4 21.6 2.5 13.2 21.8
2012-13 ★ 22 78 16.7 .496 .466 .188 .192 3.3 9.5 6.4 36.5 2.2 17.3 26.6
2013-14 23 34 17.1 .505 .480 .139 .170 2.8 11.8 7.2 38.9 2.6 17.9 23.3
Career 332 15.3 .508 .478 .176 .214 3.1 9.6 6.3 29.8 2.3 17.0 22.4
4 seasons 298 15.1 .508 .478 .180 .219 3.1 9.4 6.2 28.8 2.3 16.9 22.3
1 season 34 17.1 .505 .480 .139 .170 2.8 11.8 7.2 38.9 2.6 17.9 23.3
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Generated 5/27/2014.


It feels strange to say this, but I believe Jrue Holiday is TOO patient running the pick and roll. There is a possibility that Jrue is being asked to run too much offense and that he is being less aggressive by necessity, but there are many times where I think Jrue misses an opening in the defense and pulls the ball back out. I wouldn’t consider this a weakness if I didn’t think Jrue was capable of getting to the rim more, and therein lies the problem: I think he can do more.

Turning the Corner

Jrue struggles to beat hedges from mobile bigs and his inability to penetrate sometimes results in a stagnant possession. Opponents concentrated on taking away Anthony Davis’s rolls to the rim this season, and the lack of shooters on the weak side of the floor basically prevented the Pelicans from making them pay for cheating on the roll. Opponents could take away AD’s roll and Jrue’s penetration simultaneously without much concern for the consequences.


Jrue has never been a player who took great care of the ball and this season was no different. Though he is not reckless, Jrue is prone to leaving his feet when passing and also losing the ball while dribbling. According to, Jrue had 57 bad passes, 42 ball-handling turnovers, and 6 offensive fouls. His 2.17 assist/turnover ratio is slightly below average for a point guard and may validate the notion that he is being asked to do too much on offense. Anthony Davis’s progression as a primary offensive threat moving forward may alleviate some of the concern and an increase in AD’s usage may have a positive effect on Jrue’s turnover rate.

Struggles Versus Elite Defenders

This video is hardly a representative sample of Jrue’s season, but it highlights one of his main issues: he struggles to get into the offense versus elite defenders. Patrick Beverley of the Houston Rockets hounded him (see above) for the entire game and Jrue also struggled versus Eric Bledsoe of the Phoenix Suns. Aggressive, athletic guards can give him trouble sometimes, and that’s one of the reasons I do not want him to be a dominant ball-handler in the Pelicans offense.

Finishing at the Rim

Despite his athleticism and size, Jrue has never been a great finisher at the rim, and actually posted a very poor conversion rate at the basket this season. He highly prefers driving and finishing with his left hand, where he is probably close to an average finisher at the rim. However, his finishing at the rim with his right hand leaves much to be desired. His struggles to create a high level of separation from defenders undoubtedly factor into his finishing woes.



There was some question before the season as to how the players in the Pelican guard trio would react to having a smaller piece of the pie. That issue was immediately put to rest with Jrue, who displayed no hesitance to share the ball with any and every teammate. His defensive effort had no correlation with how many shots he was getting or how often the ball was in his hands. Jrue was someone the Pelicans could count on to make the right plays for his teammates.


As Kyle mentioned earlier, Jrue’s defense was his hallmark skill as a 76er, and his defensive abilities were on full display this season. Jrue’s length, athleticism, and IQ on defense were a welcome change after 2012-13’s Greivis Vasquez treated seemingly every NBA point guard to a 25 point dinner. Jrue is not quite the “I’m going to hound you end to end all game” type like Avery Bradley or Patrick Beverley, but he pressures at the point of attack, bothers passing lanes, fights around screens, and has an acute awareness of defensive responsibilities. I will wager that he sometimes helps too far off of shooters, but I am not sure whether it is a function of Monty Williams’s scheme or a lapse of judgment. Either way, the occasional defensive gamble is a small price to pay for what is typically excellent defense.

Jrue is also capable of switching onto bigger assignments due to his strength and savvy, which is something I could see helping tremendously once the Pelicans start playing in the playoffs. If Tyreke Evans and Jrue Holiday are the backcourt of the future, you can virtually switch everything without much consequence.

Spot Up Shooting

It’s hard to foster a reputation as a knockdown spot up threat when your team heavily relies on your ability as a playmaker, and Jrue’s position as a primary ball-handler helped hide one of Jrue’s greatest skills: spot-up shooting. Although Jrue still hasn’t been able to showcase this skill to the level that I would like him to, there were undoubtedly glimpses of what is an excellent spot up game.  Jrue can flat-out shoot.

Pull Up Jumper

The midrange jumper is typically an inefficient shot, but Jrue consistently drilled his midrange looks, knocking down 44.4% of his shots in the area. I don’t have a problem with Jrue taking this shot, because Jrue does an excellent job taking his jumper in rhythm, often using a step back to create separation from his defender. It is a smooth motion and he is almost always completely balanced.. there is nothing rushed about it. I believe that there’s a huge difference between forcing a “cool” contested fadeaway J from midrange and taking space a defender shouldn’t give you and rising up for a relatively uncontested jumper. Jrue’s is the latter and I am fine with it, so long as he is at least looking to penetrate first.


Jrue’s total rebounding rate of 7.2% surpassed the 2012-13 positional averages for both shooting guards (6.4%) and point guards (5.2%). **Note: HoopData is the only place I know to get this information and they shut down at the beginning of last season** The Pelicans guards assume a good bit of rebounding duty and his career high could be influenced by a different role, but nevertheless, his rebounding was unequivocally a positive on a Pelicans team that struggled to deny opponents second-chance opportunities.


Though Jrue is not be the ball-controlling point guard that Monty may want him to be, he is unmistakably a good passer and one who has a good feel for the abilities of his teammates.  Again, it took him some time to get accustomed to a new system and new players, but you could see signs of emerging rapport with teammates before a stress fracture ended his season. His passes are crisp and he finds shooters in rhythm, particularly Ryan Anderson. He is also capable of dumping off to bigs on drives if a shot-blocker leaves his man open to contest Jrue.

Ability to Make an Impact without Scoring

Anthony Davis is often referred to as a unique superstar because he is able to make an impact on the game without scoring a point.  Jrue is similar, though clearly to a much lesser extent.  Jrue’s versatility allows him to make an impact as a scorer, facilitator, rebounder, or defender. Very few NBA players are immune to poor scoring nights, and it is of paramount importance to be able to make an impact elsewhere. Jrue can.

Other Notes

  • Many of Jrue’s assists in transition came from hitting a streaking Anthony Davis or from giving the ball up early to Eric Gordon or Tyreke Evans. As athletic as Jrue is, he is not wired to run end to end like Ty Lawson or Russell Westbrook. In fact, he is a very poor transition scorer.
  • Aside from Davis, the Pelicans had a shortage of players who knew when/where to cut to the basket, but Jrue was good at recognizing the rare moments where someone made a smart cut. And I do mean rare.
  • Jrue is capable of hitting shooters on the opposite wing with a skip pass, but also leaves his feet to pass, which is a factor in many of his turnovers. Aggressive defenses can capitalize on this bad habit.
  • We didn’t see a lot of it this year, but Jrue appears to be comfortable posting up smaller defenders. MySynergySports has him down for only 19 possessions, so it’s hard to derive anything conclusive from the video. However, it appears that Jrue is strong enough to establish position and is comfortable working on either block.. but again, you just can’t draw sweeping conclusions from 19 possessions.
  • Ideally, Tyreke and Jrue will take turns initiating the offense next year, and Jrue’s ability to play off the ball should help a lot in this regard.  We saw it some with team USA.. Jrue is capable of coming off a curl, receiving the ball, and making a play. In fact, it is very effective because it gives him a step on his man and there is often an easy decision following the curl, which he is more than capable of making.
  • I have lamented Jrue’s inability to be aggressive in the pick and roll, but he registered excellent stats in isolation, scoring 1.03 PPP, good for 10th best in the league. Despite this encouraging statistic, isolation is not a big part of his game, and it’s hard to believe that he is truly one of the best isolation players in the NBA. However, the way he attacks in isolation is markedly different from how he attacks in the pick and roll. There is a gear that he can access in isolation that he doesn’t tap into much otherwise, and his hesitations and fakes are effective at the 1 v 1 level. As I mentioned earlier, I would like Jrue to have less responsibility creating for others. I think he is at his best when the offense doesn’t depend on him assuming a majority share of the playmaking duty.


The Outlook


**I apologize for the font size of this table.. click on the table to enlarge

The 4 man lineup of Jrue Holiday, Anthony Davis, Tyreke Evans, and Ryan Anderson was wildly successful in a small sample of games, so there is no evidence to suggest that this combination of players couldn’t be very successful moving forward. Clearly, there are plenty of defensive issues to address with this 4 man combination (107.9 is, um, bad), but the offense is scintillating when these players are on the court together. And for the throngs of Pelicans fans screaming for pace- this unit runs a pretty quick one. But I am far less concerned with pace and more concerned with units outscoring opponents.. which they did.

I am very happy moving forward with Jrue Holiday as one of the building blocks of the Pelicans franchise. The Pelicans already have their foundational piece in Anthony Davis and must find players who can fit as secondary options around him; Jrue fits that bill. He can defend, rebound, score, pass, and is a steadying force and consummate professional. He doesn’t complain about not getting the ball enough or dog it on defense, and most importantly, he is cognizant that this is Anthony Davis’s franchise to carry.

Oh yeah, one more thing. You play for the Pelicans now, Jrue!!


For a look at all the Season in Review pieces, click here.



  1. thouse

    May 28, 2014 at 8:28 am

    Good write up.
    I 100% agree that Jrue needs to be off ball more. He isn’t going to be able to play the PG role we’re used to seeing in Montys tenure. Having him pound the ball at the top of the key plays into his worst habits.
    He’s not as untouchable as many fans think, but he is a solid complementary piece. I’m really excited about a Holiday/Evans backcourt.

  2. lsuforever33

    May 28, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Don’t forgot he said he was being bothered by shin splits before the stress fracture, so if you exclude those games he averaged 16/9 on 55% TS (22 games)

  3. Caffeinedisaster

    May 28, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    Love those highlights against the Blazers.

    He was playing them like 2K.

    Good, unselfish player with many talents.

  4. 504ever

    May 28, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    I think what makes Jrue so great is his versatility.  When you have core parts like Anderson and Evans who are much more one dimensional, you need the flexibility of players who do many things well, like Jrue and AD.  Jrue skills allow him to play positions 1-3 offensively and defensively. That’s huge.

  5. Sportnlyfe

    May 28, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Great write up on Jrue. I’m sure you’re aware that Jimmy Smith at TP wrote last week indicating skepticism about how good the trade for Jrue was, given what the Pelicans gave up. Lots of blowback for his piece, but some support also. I’m also glad you mentioned that Portland game here (and hope McNamara has it on his list of glory days!) because with Gordon out and Jrue running with Tyreke for the whole game, it’s a good indication of what that lineup may be like. Anderson was still playing then, spaced the floor well, and as a result Jrue and Tyreke took turns carving up the Portland backcourt (though signs of the defensive challenges ahead for a Jrue and Tyreke combo were also evident.) Most important, that game the team ran and ran and it was clear that Jrue, just as you said, is just not programed to take the ball to the rim. He sorta let Tyreke suck the defense toward the baseline and feasted on open 10-15 foot jumpers that were all net. On defense, Lillard’s pull-up 3-pointers gave him problems a few times, but otherwise Jrue mugged him all game. 
    I happen to think that the trade will work out and eventually be thought of as a no-brainer, so this article is a good basis for assessing what Jrue’s contribution can and should be. What we should and shouldn’t expect from him.

  6. al asifyouknow

    May 28, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Honest to God I still don’t understand how your GM spends 60 mill plus in contracts in guards and you get a few more wins than a 2.5 mill player like Vasquez was giving you and actually still have a job.
    If I was the owner and my guy went out and spend that kind of dough he better dam well get me at least a .500 season.
    Here is the best part, in mid-season Demps was trying like hell to dump Evens and had no luck.
    Head scratcher for sure.

    Some folks were talking about what great defenders they were, well maybe they had an off year but honestly they were both sub-par defenders. The Hornets record will tell you that.
    Even though I’m a spurs fans I’ve been watching New Orleans the last few years because Vasquez was there and after he left because I like Davis and Anderson.
    Seen you guys live a few times a few rows from the floor when Vaz was there and what became obvious to me is that you got pushed around the paint like rag dolls, it was clear that you needed some muscle inside and not two more point guards. I know some folks think one of them is a shooting guard, I can‘t figure which one to pick .
    One more question .. What is Rivers still doing there?

  7. PelicanSaints

    May 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Evans ability to drive and kick will help Jrue tremendously……..It will allow him as well others to spot up and shoot………..

  8. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    al asifyouknow I think you are ignoring a whole lot of context in your argument against Demps. Namely, 2 of our top 4 players being injured for over half the season. Pretending like this year was all giggles and glory would be a pretty big stretch, but pretending this year’s team was “only a few wins better” is also one. Jrue Holiday and Greivis Vasquez are worlds apart as players. Worlds. And I was saying Vasquez had plenty of issues last year when he was putting up “All-Star” numbers. He was a below average starter. My opinion of him didn’t change when we traded him.
    Who is your source that Demps was “trying like hell to dump Evans?” You were involved in these conversations?
    I feel like this was a pretty objective article about Jrue. You posed a lot of questions in your post and I’d be happy to have a discussion. And I don’t mind disagreement. But if it is your point to troll, then you are just wasting your time. Which is odd, considering your team is in the WCF right now. Seems like you would be content watching them.

  9. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Sportnlyfe Thanks, Sportnlyfe. I figured I’d leave the skepticism regarding Jrue’s contract for another day.. it’s such a divisive topic and I didn’t want Jrue’s play the floor to be swept to the side in favor of arguing the merits of the trade.
    Also, can’t wait for the Glory Days from the Blazers game!

  10. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    504ever I feel the same. You need guys who have the ability to adapt to what is needed. I think you might be shortchanging Ryno and Tyreke a tad by calling them one-dimensional, but I understand what you are trying to say (re: versatility) and agree wholeheartedly

  11. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Caffeinedisaster yup- jack of all trades

  12. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    lsuforever33 I didn’t want to get too picky about which games I was selecting, but nice job analyzing w/ regard to context. I’m guessing that you’re right and it did factor into his production in his last few games.

  13. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    thouse YES. I’m hoping it was that Monty just didn’t trust other guys to handle distribution and not that he sees Jrue as a ball-controlling point guard.. because I don’t think that’s the way to go. Would love to see him off the ball.

  14. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    PelicanSaints yup, and Jrue could do a lot of damage attacking a bad closeout or attacking off Tyreke’s initial penetration. There are a lot of good things that could happen

  15. Michael Pellissier

    May 28, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    xman20002000 Yes, Gordon has a little bit of a disconnect with what he is here for at this point. Agree- wish we could’ve seen a healthier season

  16. al asifyouknow

    May 29, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Michael Pellissier al asifyouknow 
    Michael we were doing great until the trolling thing, I know is some kind of derogatory remark but I honestly don’t get the concept.
    I’M A HUGE NBA FAN. I’m a blogger, opinion maker and a decent writer. Basically a fan with an opinion, we can agree there is no crime in that.
    I watched New Orleans play the Cavaliers during the Vasquez era, I also went this year to see Davis play.
    Mr. Davis does look bigger than last year (I was about 3 rows from floor both times) he did fight for position and was winning. That was not the case a few years ago, I watched the worse team in the NBA, Cavs, push you guys around at will, that is why my thinking was that you needed some bigs.
    Holiday and Evans did not improve your situation, the record shows that, Michael I’m sort of big on stats but maybe I’m reading it wrong.
    A healthy Vasquez would of done a better job for you guys if he had some NBA players, you at least must admit that he played with mostly D-league players a few years ago and you should also know the only legit NBA talent was hurt most of the year (Davis, Anderson and Gordon).
    I say healthy Vasquez because, as you may not know, he played in pain with bone spurs in his foot most of the season. I never had those but I understand is like having broken glass in you shoes , it hurts like hell.
    Demps should of spend those 60 plus millions on some inside guys and there were plenty available, lets say like Howard, and keep Vasquez even as a backup.
    Let me give you some stats , vasquez spend most of this season recovering from the surgery but after the all-star game he was back to about 95% and his stats were:
    In 25 minutes 12 pts. 4 ass and 46% from 3 point land, 43% fg 88% ft and when paired with Lowry the best backcourt in the NBA (the last on is a fantasy stats of course, personally not a big fan of them but ..) and was along with Lowry and DeMar the big shot makers on the team, Vaz was not a fill in , he was a big reason why Toronto went to . the Playoffs. Raptors had the best record in the east after the trade with the Kings.
    The Vasquez dump was all on Demps because he wanted the speed gurds, here ios what you guys got:
    Evans can be described very simply..He is a Rudy Gay junior everybody knows that, no argument there.
    Holiday should actually be a SG, not a great dribbler or, in my opinion, a great passer, he is more of a turn over machine .than Vaz was. There is a reason why the king and Phill did not want them.
    So yes Michael you did not in any way improved the team, Demps made a 60 mill mistake and now you have about 80mill in contracts wrapped around three gourds, who in the hell does that, well maybe Miami.
    Look I understand your gig in the pelkicans and you most hold the home fans b ut honestly can you tell me this is a better team.
    Nice talking to you,

  17. Michael Pellissier

    May 29, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    al asifyouknow Michael Pellissier first off, I never throw around derogatory comments. Ever. I will critique an opinion, decision, or article, but I do not attack character. I understand there is a language barrier here, but “trolling” (in this situation) just means that you go on another team’s site to aggravate their fans. It is not a label, it is an action. I want to emphasize that I just strongly disagree with almost everything you’re saying.. it is not an indictment on your character. I don’t do that.
    I do not believe in throwing away context, which is exactly what you are doing in analyzing 12-13 versus 13-14. There were injuries in 12-13, yes, but not nearly to the extent of this season. That isn’t conjecture and I’m not pulling out an opinion. It is a fact. 
    I believe in context for all teams, too, which is why I wouldn’t troll a San Antonio site when you guys were not playing as well b/c Kawhi Leonard was hurt. Or when GS didn’t have Iggy. Or when Memphis didn’t have Gasol. I think you see my point.
    You have clearly already arrived at your opinions of the team, so arguing with you on your perceptions of our team and players really is of no benefit to either of us.

  18. al asifyouknow

    May 29, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    I see but i got to you by google, your article apeared as i was serching nba stories so i did not know this was a fan site only, maybe you should post.that on the serch engine so only Pelican fans can post……I write becouse i like debate no harn done to anyone…In all opinions are. Subject to disagreeent. That is the nature of this task. Ok all is good, time will prove me right …… still did not tell me why Rivers still there? Ill give u a hint Monty and Doc are like father and son..Sorry about r errors this my cell and have no time to edit..

  19. kibner

    May 30, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    al asifyouknow
    Rivers is getting better and was a mediocre bench player this season. He may end up being a solid back-up by the time his rookie contract ends.

    Austin is also only behind Jrue when it comes to on-ball defense against guards. He is actually turning into a good spot-up shooter from 3 and defers to better teammates.

    Lots (and lots and lots) of flaws, to be sure. But he is getting better and contributes to this team in ways that aren’t always reflected by his stats.

  20. al asifyouknow

    June 6, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Michael Pellissier al asifyouknow 
    Did not see this until today so let me just answer you one more time.
    As always time will tell.
    Facts are Mr. Demps has not done a good job there. The records don’t lie.
    Facts are Holiday and Evans will just collect a pay check and after Monty or Demps get fired the Pelicans -once again- will be looking for dump big contracts as you have – unsuccessfully- with Gordon.
    By the way, you asked me who said the Pelicans wanted to dump Evans, just Google ” New Orleans  Pelicans looking to trade Evans” be prepare to read about 100 articles.
    Wish you guys well. Demps made a mistake and until you guys get big inside so you can complement Davis you will keep losing. Remember who told you.
    Have a  nice year.

  21. Michael McNamara

    June 6, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    al asifyouknow Michael Pellissier And maybe by next year, you will know what the word “fact” means.

  22. Jason Calmes

    June 6, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    al asifyouknow Michael Pellissier You clearly really believe you have made a point. Amazing.

  23. al asifyouknow

    June 7, 2014 at 7:50 am

    Time will tell…

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  26. al asifyouknow

    June 4, 2015 at 8:21 am

    Michael McNamara al asifyouknow Michael Pellissier Love going back to look at posts…Mr. McNamara facts are Monty and Rivers are gone and you still have millions tide up on overpaid gurds.. Just saying facts are and I was right on my take a year ago,,,

  27. al asifyouknow

    June 4, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Jason Calmes al asifyouknow Michael Pellissier  Hallo Mr. Calmes found this old posts…you post quote: “You clearly really believe you have made a point. Amazing.” A year later it appears I have,…lol  good to see you…

  28. Jason Calmes

    June 4, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Well, al asifyouknow, you were wrong and are wrong and are incapable of seeing it. You also really have no idea what my position is, so you are in no position to criticize.
    Sorry this is the case.
    Maybe one day you’ll learn. Good luck to you.

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