In the NO Podcast Episode 137: Pelicans Draft 6th and the Draft Combine

Published: May 21, 2013

Michael and I talk the sixth pick of the draft after I moan and whine about it to start the show. Then we talk players that could be available, players that could fall, players that could rise, and lastly, who would each of us take at that spot if we were Dell Demps and had no trade offers on the table.

And yes, somehow I manage to mention Rudy Gay. And donkey balls. I think you had to be there.

Also, we talk to Kevin Hetrick of Hardwood Paroxysm, who did an amazing 14 part series on the predictive power of the NBA Combine. 

Give us a call to sound off! 504-322-3333.

Enjoy the Podcast!


  1. jsl05

    May 21, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Will there be a new picture for the podcast on iTunes?

    • Jason Calmes

      May 21, 2013 at 11:24 pm

      jsl05 On the long to do list. 
      Keep us honest. Good job.

  2. Flight of the Pelicans

    May 21, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    gotta call it the pelicast

    • Jason Calmes

      May 22, 2013 at 12:02 am

      Flight of the Pelicans The Cast Remains the Same. 
      The blog might have been called In the NO if the name didn’t cost so much money.

      • MikeStanley1

        May 22, 2013 at 6:43 am

        Jason Calmes Flight of the Pelicans This is off-topic, but I’d be curious to hear why certain names would cost so much more than others.  Also I noticed in a previous comment that you said the organization wanted you to refrain from using “Pelicans” for this blog, but then why is it okay for you to name the dedicated forum portion “Pelicans Report”?

      • Jason Calmes

        May 22, 2013 at 7:24 am

        MikeStanley1 Jason Calmes Flight of the Pelicans You would have to ask the people who control that cost and that name.

      • twowatt8

        May 22, 2013 at 7:47 am

        Domains with fewer letters tend to be valued highly, especially if they contain common word(s). If you go check any average domain registration site, you can see that their high-profile auctions are almost exclusively low-character count with high marketability.

    • yaboytonez

      May 22, 2013 at 8:47 am


  3. MikeStanley1

    May 22, 2013 at 6:42 am

    Good podcast as always – the points about Len’s foot and previous big men having issues with this does put me off taking him at 6.  
    The other thing I was thinking was that points about Porter being too frail to hold up make sense, but then Kevin Durant has a similar body makeup to Porter (and similar basketball IQ) and he is the 2nd best player on the planet.

  4. MikeStanley1

    May 22, 2013 at 7:06 am

    I like the sales job on Cody Zeller – I think the Pels need to keep this
    pick and turn it into a starter because those rookie contracts (and
    controlling a player for minimum of 5 years) is so valuable.  You’d get
    solid value with him at 6, he’d be starting by the trade deadline next
    season and he along with AD23 are such great character guys that you’d
    have no worries from your starting 4 and 5 for the next half-decade (at
    We’d still have assets (Gordon, Vasquez, Lopez, cap room)
    that we could flip/use for upgrades at the 1 and 3.  The more I think
    about our situation the more I hope that Benson doesn’t pressure Demps
    to rush this and “compete” as soon as possible.  The West is so damn
    strong and it’s not like we can be in the WCF these next two seasons
    regardless of what we do.  Just thinking about OKC, Memphis, Houston,
    Golden State, Denver, LA Clippers, San Antonio, and then (to a lesser extent)
    Utah, Portland, Minnesota, and THEN the temporarily down powers like LA
    Lakers and Dallas (who you know will be back sooner or later), it’s daunting.  The only way for us to make a
    meaningful run/impact is to do this 100% right.  Rushing it will ruin
    it.Watching the lottery last night really hammered home how solid
    the West is, and what a cluster the East is.  There are virtually no
    “clueless” organizations like Toronto and Washington and Milwaukee in
    the West.  Maybe Sacramento… that’s
    it though.  What a tough road to hoe.

    • fearthepelicans

      May 22, 2013 at 7:11 am

      MikeStanley1 My only concern about Zeller is that his best attribute is his speed and the Pelicans don’t do a whole lot of running.

      • Caffeinedisaster

        May 23, 2013 at 8:35 am

        fearthepelicans MikeStanley1 I expect that to change soon in respect to the PG position.

    • Caffeinedisaster

      May 23, 2013 at 8:34 am

      MikeStanley1 I hope they don’t rush it either.  Picking up a top 3 in next years draft would DRASTICALLY help us start our dynasty.

  5. champsworld504

    May 22, 2013 at 9:38 am

    is it possible we trade back in the draft say w/ Minnesota or Atl (teams w/ multiple 1st rounders) for #6?

    • Michael McNamara

      May 22, 2013 at 10:07 am

      champsworld504 If I were Dell and I loved Saric, I would call Minny and ask for #9 and 26. Take Saric at 9 and then grab a guy who can play right away like Jeff Withey at 26.

      • 504ever

        May 23, 2013 at 4:49 pm

        Michael McNamara champsworld504  
        Michael,  I’d like your idea better if we either euro-stashed Schroeder at 9 or thought we could get Larkin at 26.

    • yaboytonez

      May 22, 2013 at 2:37 pm

      U see two players after 10 you like?

  6. Edbballin504

    May 22, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Looking at the cards we have been dealt, I would implore Dell to consider the following moves this offseason: Bring back Lopez, Aminu, and GV. Draft CJ McCollum. Throw 100% of the cap space on a max contract for Andre Iguodala. Trade Gordon + future protected #1 for Danny Granger.
    PG- GV, Rivers, Roberts….SG-Iggy, McCollum/Rivers….SF-Granger, Aminu, Miller…….PF-AD, Anderson…..C-Lopez, Smith

    • veezyv

      May 22, 2013 at 8:47 pm

      Edbballin504 Granger is coming off an injury.  I dont think we need to give them a first.

  7. bombay

    May 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Does anyone like the Anthony Bennet pick at 6..The dude is a beast inside and out. And I think he is a fix at sf that would give us flexibility to spend money elswhere being that he would be cheaper than iggy..

    • yaboytonez

      May 22, 2013 at 2:38 pm

      No defense

    • Caffeinedisaster

      May 23, 2013 at 8:29 am

      bombay I like the way he plays bully-ball.  However, in the NBA the guys he’ll play against will be much bigger.  Also his game is more suited at the PF, for which he is undersized and we are STOCKED.

  8. shantadiva

    May 22, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Since both of you are huge fans of Oladipo, I’d love for you to comment on this comment to John Reid’s article in the T-P: Not
    a fan of Oladipo. We already have a Oladipo-his name is Aminu. Yeah,
    Aminu is exactly the same as Oladipo except Aminu is 3 inches taller.  
    Here is Aminu’s profile going into the draft. 
    Ability to get to free throw line 
    – Mismatch Potential 
    – Transition play 
    – Ability to put ball on floor 
    – Makes quick moves in the post 
    – Ability to contest shots 
    – Commitment to playing defense 
    – Lateral quickness 
    – Versatility to defend multiple positions 
    – Coachable 
    – Energy/Intensity 
    – Huge upside 
    – Strong Intangibles 
    – Positional versatility 
    – Young for class 
    – Ability to finish around basket 
    – Excellent wingspan 
    – Freakish athleticism 
    – Solid frame 
    – Excellent rebounder 
    -Ability to shoot off the dribble 
    -Not a great jump shot 
    could almost switch Aminu’s draft profile for Oladipo’s. We don’t need
    another great “defender” and high energy guy who can really “get to the
    rim.” We need a scorer who can shoot.

    • yaboytonez

      May 22, 2013 at 5:43 pm

      All Farouq-Aminu Is NOT Oladipo. Olaxipo’s defense and upside are superior.

      • MikeStanley1

        May 23, 2013 at 11:38 am

        yaboytonez Oladipo’s basketball IQ is about 1,000,000,000,000 times higher than Aminu’s.  Aminu reminds me of Julian Wright – dude is clueless out there half the time.

    • ryanschwan

      May 23, 2013 at 2:18 pm

      shantadivaThat’s a vast oversimplification.  Here’s my take on Aminu from that draft:
      It’s sad how little Aminu has developed his game from that draft profile.

      Oladipo on the other hand is not only a phenomenal defensive talent – but he has one of the highest offensive efficiencies in this entire draft.   Even if you feel his excellent shooting this year may regress, at the very worst you’ll get a tremendous defender who doesn’t take anything away offensively and can be a good D-and-Three guy.

      Aminu takes a lot away offensively.

      • shantadiva

        May 23, 2013 at 11:08 pm

        ryanschwan shantadiva No, I read # comment to Reid’s article and it gave me concern.  I certainly haven’t seen enough of Oladipo to have a concrete position on him. I think if he’s there at 6 we take him.  If he’s not there, I would rather us trade.  I’d love to see us do a 2 for 1 with Utah.  I think there’s a lot of value after the top 4-5 guys, and I’d rather us get 2 picks,maybe one or both we could stash to save money to go after Bledsoe, and Pekovic or Jefferson.

  9. shantadiva

    May 22, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    If you have a party for the draft, make it someplace other than Tracey’s.  I like Jeff the owner a ton, and Tracy’s itself, but you need a place that will let you take it over for that part of the night, give you a mike and all.  I don’t see Jeff doing that.  Maybe Finn McCools, a great sports bar in Midcity would be better.  They’re big Pelican fans, they’d have some real specials like a bucket (5) domestic beers for $9.00.

    • jsl05

      May 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm

      Or for the younger readers that can’t drink, maybe a place that’s more of a restaurant.

      • Jason Calmes

        May 22, 2013 at 5:12 pm

        Tracey’s allows all ages and has good food options.
        Feel free to suggest others.
        We’ll check out other places if the draft party needs are other than what Tracey’s can supply.
        Also, there is a post for this, and it isn’t this one.

    • MikeStanley1

      May 23, 2013 at 10:42 am

      shantadiva Niall Doherty used to have a good relationship with Handsome Willy’s who was very Hornets friendly back during the “Big Three” era of CP3/DXPoutyFace/Tyson

  10. bobmurrell

    May 23, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    QQ – can you provide the link of the research done by the guest? There wasn’t mention of where it was posted. Thanks!

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