In the NO Podcast Episode 77: Young Bucks in Action

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Published: July 16, 2012

Davis takes the court for Team USA, Gordon comes back for the Max, and Austin Rivers tries his hand as a point guard for the first time. Lots to talk about.

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42 comments
Everett
Everett

Solid podcast. Thanks again for all the work you guys put in.

LVprivateer
LVprivateer

Hey guys, long time reader, listener, and first time commenter. Here it goes, I like everyone else struggles with watching player movement in FA and always look for the Hornets to make a move and sometimes I get impatient. However, when I put on my big boy pants and really look at how things are put together I really can't say that this team desperately NEEDS any of the players out there this year or next. Every team in the NBA desperately looks to add core players to the extent of vastly overpaying in FA. The Hornets core is in place. The bigs of the future will be Davis and Anderson and specific position is irrelevant. They will provide great second and third offensive options in time. The All Star caliber scorer is in place in Eric Gordon. The sixth man/potential scoring PG is in place in Rivers. Role players will come in an out as stated in the podcast much like SA and very similarly to our very own New Orleans Saints (look at the turnover from 06-12). Although I do like this group of role players. Vasquez provides passion, leadership, and playmaking. Aminu defense and rebounding. Smith toughness and offense. Miller defense and jumpshooting. Will they be the future? Who knows? But I just wanted to make my first post and say that there really aren't very many holes on this team. Just need to find the right mix and most importantly time and patience. Sorry it was long. And thanks for the outlet to interact with other Hornets fans!

berlin-hornets
berlin-hornets

Hi Guys. Once again, I really love the stuff you are doing. I am checking other blogs, too, but this one is by far the best of them all. Thanks for takling such a range of topics and doing it with so much media. The podcasts a weekly necessity for me now! You said something about t-shirts. I would love to not only represent the Hornets here in Germany, but this site, too. If this meant helping you financially, too, I would love to do it.

Bombay
Bombay

Henry looks so horrible...When is he going to live up to being a lottery pick..Needs to play with more pride...Trust his technique and skill set..

Bombay
Bombay

Is it me or is Rivers not getting the call when he drives to the lane..?Some guy had 10 fouls last night....But Rivers hit the deck way too much and im dissapointed the refs and hornets players didnt do a better job of protecting Rivers when he attacked the basket...In a real nba game at the hive, im sure they wont be able to touch Rivers without a foul being called...I think this is good for him tho, to have his confidence shaken a bit...He should respond by working harder and hitting the weight room...

lsutigers33
lsutigers33

funny - mid range jumper is Rivers problem not just henrys.

lsutigers33
lsutigers33

If you look at the flip side of what Dell has done we no longer have Kaman and Okafor at Center J Smith, Landry, Davis at PF Ariza and Aminu at SF E Gordon and Rivers at SG J Jack and Vasquez at PG Now this would have cost us $$$, but that's a playoff team if healthy.

Kempleton
Kempleton

I have not finished the podcast yet but What do you think about Davis not playing a minute in Team USA's Olympics preparation game vs Brazil? Come on Coach K? If you don't give "any" minute to Davis in these kind of preparation games, when would you give him minutes? I would expect Davis to play a couple of minutes as the end of 3rd and a couple of minutes in the beginning of 4th? He should not be just out there when the team has a blow-out win like the one against DR. It makes me sad that all the players on the roster played but Davis.

Kempleton
Kempleton

Mike McNamara. :) Come on! James Borragio? He has been an assistant to Monty for 3 years now. I wouldn't expect such a bad attempt at his last name. :) You said it. You really butchered it! :)

Josh
Josh

When are the expected changes coming to the site? I hope before the end of August, but any time will be fine. It seems like a lot of stuff is changing with the Hornets. A new TV station, new practice facility, renovated arena, new players, new owner, new team name, and new Hornets247.

Josh
Josh

Thanks for the podcast. It was great, as always. I can see Vasquez, Aminu, and Smith getting big minutes this year and having their options picked up; but I'm not too sure about Henry. I guess we will see during the season. What and when are some of the changes coming to the site? Ryan mentioned that it is "not exactly free", and I got worried. I did the survey that you asked us to do. Thanks.

Mike P
Mike P

You guys made a good point about the valuable experience Davis would've gained going against Brand in practice.. but doesn't this apply for the Olympics as well? I know they practice against the Select team, but Davis is still being exposed to the best players in the world on a daily basis. He's going to see how Chris Paul picks apart defenses, how LeBron is unstoppable with a head of steam, etc.. And I think that's the perfect introduction to the NBA game. I am in no way equating my talent to Anthony Davis, but my first college soccer game against a top 10 ranked team opened my eyes to the sport. We played a school with a bunch of foreign kids, and I could swear they weren't even playing the same sport. They were doing things I had never seen before in person, and that stuff still sticks with me. And I've learned from it. My point is that the best learning experiences in sports are those in which you see people playing and seeing things at a higher level. And athletes that can take those experiences and start applying them at an earlier age than others have a distinct advantage, especially if they are as blessed physically as Davis is.

diehard hornet from brazil
diehard hornet from brazil

survey filled out! Hope you guys get what you need! Your job is awesome! Isn't there a survey I can fill in order to teach henry how to shoot, instead of close his eyes and bump into everybody in the paint?

Ron
Ron

Why do I have to give my email address and demographic info to Wizzard Media? So they can sell my data to some marketing company?

Scott
Scott

i take it monty and dell aren't really interested in any serious moves because all the decent FA's are pretty much gone at this point. i still think we need at least one 7 footer on this team (i mean it'd be nice at least). who's going to guard the howards, bynums, gasols, garnetts, perkins, etc.? i'm getting the point that this year is strictly a rebuilding year and we expect to get another lottery pick in next year's draft. i mean, hell, it can't get any worse than last year so we should still see a significant improvement (especially if brittle gordon can stay healthy for much or all of the season). i'm stoked about this season, though. i look forward to seeing rivers learn the PG position, and i hope he's a stud! if he's a stud, WATCH OUT! the hornets could be searching for their first title soon!

mojart
mojart

wat do u think of hasaan whiteside....i know he is a project and we have so many projects in dis roster.....but i remember jsmitty is a project before so why not take a gamble also on dis kid....we need a C

Mark
Mark

For someone hailed as a coach's son, Rivers seems to have a dearth of basketball IQ. Hoping it's just a summer league thing. Let's hope our shooting coach can improve his charity stripe performance, otherwise his slashing game is essentially nullified. And Xavier, at that.

Chuck
Chuck

Doesn't ESPN sponsor all the stuff on this site?

nolakid21
nolakid21

Hey I just read that we are probably going to bring in Ryan Hollins to play center for this team, have you guys heard the same?

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara

Agree that there aren't many holes on the team if everyone stays healthy, but the team lacks depth, and one or two injuries to main guys could make this a bottom 5 kind of team. The future is bright, however. Thanks for posting. Welcome, and keep it coming!

Zombian
Zombian

Our total salary (assuming Landry and Kaman took significant pay cuts) would be at $68 Million. That's the third highest in the league for last season (via hoopshype). Another way to put that is $10 Million over the limit for a 10 man roster. You have to have at least 12 players to make a roster (I think its 12, correct me if I'm wrong someone). And although I would think this team (as you said, "if healthy") makes the playoffs, I doubt they go more than 5 games. Oh, and we'd have locked Kaman and Landry down for however many years you think they'd negotiate to go along with Gordon's 4, and have Ariza and Okafor on the books for two years, assuring we have no flexibility and no room to grow as we play aging players who have declining value who won't be here when we're trying to make a push. We wouldn't get the picks we've garnered lately either. The only two advantages I see is there are older players to nurture the growth of the younger ones and that we'd have our "true centers".

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara

Didn't see the game, but the box score said he played 3 minutes and went 0-1 from the field (a three-pointer). Is this not accurate? Anybody watch the whole game?

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara

Hey- at least I attempted it! If you listen to Ryan, he doesn't even know who I am talking about! Too busy playing D&D. I know I butchered it, but in all seriousness, the Hornets do not allow us to talk to assistant coaches all that often, so the guy is basically just a face on the bench to me, although Joe has gotten some 1-on-1 time this week, and the guy is super smart. Would love to have him on the podcast one day.

Ryan Schwan
Ryan Schwan

Sorry, Josh. Didn't mean to worry you. Everything on the site, including the podcast will always remain free to our readers. My comment about things not being exactly free was in reference to things like sending Dru and Joe off to Summer League and the Olympics and them staying in Las Vegas over that time. We want to keep doing that stuff, and getting a sponsor for the podcast will make those sorts of things possible. We're going to try and redesign the site this summer to make it easier for each person to find the types of articles they want. There are also all sorts of little upgrades we will be looking at. Thanks for doing the survey!

nicks65
nicks65

I don't think anyone would disagree with your point about the olympics. I mean I am just thankful that AD is away and not taking minutes away from Bowles. Just joking. In seriousness, I think MM's point has more to do with the fact that developing a player like AD to his highest potential won't be one offseason in London or even one regular season. It is a two or three year program. If we could consistently get a quality big, like Brand, for him to bang against in practice during the regular season, it would only continue the development that he will experience in London.

Ryan Schwan
Ryan Schwan

The email address is a semi-lame attempt to stop someone like me from just filling it out the 200 times needed. The Demographic information is what enables them to sell it to particular clients.

Chuck
Chuck

In seriousness though, if you don't want email spam just unsubscribe or make a dummy email account. You're not giving away any personal information so there's really no harm.

Chuck
Chuck

BOO CAPITALISM. OCCUPY WIZZARD MEDIA

Jason Calmes
Jason Calmes

That money doesn't cover much beyond keeping the site running, so it pays the hosting company.

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara

Okay, it looks like the one I saw was all jumbled up. It was Harden that played 3 minutes and was 0-1 But like I said in the podcast, I only expect him to get minutes in blowouts, and this was not a blowout.

coach44
coach44

I didn't see him play at all.

coach44
coach44

What do you mean by "the type of articles they want"? I want to read everything, even Mason's stuff. And I love the fact that Jason does all the math for me. I owe you a Blarney burger Jason.

Michael McNamara
Michael McNamara

All things are under consideration- and it's not really just to keep the site going. We can afford that. It is to attend Summer League, cover road games, do ticket giveaways- we gave away over 120 tickets last year- , etc. etc. Every penny this site has coming in goes to make a better product for all the readers, so if we can get this sponsor for the podcast, we are looking at a couple grand that will all be reinvested to better serve the readers. I am actually really excited to see what we can do with some real $$$, because we have done a heck of a lot with a little so far. Thanks again everyone for filling out the survey

nicks65
nicks65

Why doesn't the site sell ad space at the bottom and sides of pages? I know it is tacky, but if keeps Hornets247 going, then I think it is worth it.

Josh
Josh

Thanks, Ryan. And no problem about the survey.

Mike P
Mike P

Ah, maybe I misunderstood MM's point, because I definitely don't think Davis's development will be completed anytime soon. Good clarification. It is a process, but like Calipari said, I think the Olympics push his career ahead (maybe not two years, like he said, but certainly enough to make it worthwhile). For the record, I was 100% on board with getting Brand off of the amnesty wire, and still wonder why Dell didn't put in a more aggressive bid, if he even put one in at all. Regardless, I have faith that Dell will put the right pieces in place when it matters.

coach44
coach44

Didn't even have my income level of $0-$10.

Ron
Ron

As if you couldn't generate a bunch of gmail and yahoo addresses. Using the originator's IP address to simulate uniqueness isn't perfect either but at least means that you'd need to route through 200 different proxies to post anonymous demographic data.

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