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Hornets Can Get Good Value in the Amnesty Process
Brendan Haywood, Luis Scola, Darko Milicic, and Elton Brand are all there for the taking. Will Demps take the plunge into the amnesty abyss?
We have witnessed an offseason that has seen Gerald Wallace get $40 million, Goran Drigic get $32 million, and Nic Batum get $46 million all over 4 years. Michael Beasley is set to receive $6 million per year (even though his last team was far better with him on the bench) and the New Jersey Nets traded for a shooting guard on the backside of his career who is owed nearly $90 million over the next four seasons. The early days of free agency is the time of year that gets fan bases excited, but more often than not they end up cursing these very same contracts a couple of years down the road.
The next few weeks of the offseason is where teams start to get value. All of the big boy contenders are over the cap, and the teams in rebuilding mode have no desire to give minutes to veterans (choosing instead to play young guys), so they stay out of the free agency process for the most part. Good players are still available, however, and the number of good players on the market is actually increasing every day. Teams are allowed to use their one-time amnesty between July 11th and July 17th this year, and so far four teams have chosen to use it to clear space this year.
Here are the players up for bid and the number of years the winning team would be committing to them for:
Elton Brand (1 year)
Darko Milicic (2 years)
Brendan Haywood (4 years)
Luis Scola (3 years)
Now the way that this process works is that all teams that are below the cap are eligible to place a bid on these players. The winning bid will be spread out evenly over the years that the player has remaining on his contract. The bid average per year can be for an amount up to, but not exceeding, the amount of cap space your team currently has available. As Jason documented yesterday, the Hornets have a little over $10 million available, and can therefore be extremely active in this process.
Last year, seven players were amnestied and only two of them received bids- Travis Outlaw and Chauncey Billups. It took just over $2 million to win the rights to Billups, and $4 million a year got Travis Outlaw. With that as the precedent, it seems logical to think that the Hornets could walk away with two of these guys if they decided to be aggressive with their bidding.
Regardless, the teams that win the rights to these players will be getting them below market price – a market that gave Kwame Brown 7 million dollars (for one season) last year. The prize in this group is obviously Elton Brand, a PF/C that had perhaps his best defensive season of his career last year, and who can still score in the post or off the pick and pop. Brand also provides veteran leadership, something that the Hornets desperately need after trading Jarrett Jack earlier this week. Dallas is said to be intrested in Brand’s services, but the Hornets have about three million more in cap space, meaning that they could outbid Dallas if they want him bad enough.
Brenden Haywood is not a starter by any means, but he is a big body that could give a team 15-20 minutes a night. If you can get that for two to three million dollars a year in this market, you take it and run. Same goes for Darko Milicic, who had an extremely disappointing year last year for Minnesota, but was considered a well above average defensive center in years prior. Lastly we have Scola, a player targeted by GM Dell Demps just 8 short months ago. A supremely talented offensive player, Scola was overpaid at $10 mil per year, but could be one of the best bargains in the league at 4-5.
The Hornets are currently very thin in the front court, having only Anthony Davis, Ryan Anderson, and Jason Smith there currently. Ideally, the Hornets would find a player who can score in the low post and a player who can defend bulkier low post players. Darko and Haywood can do the latter, Scola can do the former, and Elton Brand can do both. The blind bid process is a tricky one, because you don’t want to lose out on a player you desire by being too frugal, and you don’t want to overpay a guy you could have had much cheaper, but that’s all part of the game. The Hornets have an opportunity to get one or two of these guys for below market value to round out their front court for next season, and possibly beyond.
And as we have seen in the past, you never expect Dealer Dell to pass up a good value.
I think it is time to align the title of this article with reality. It suggest it be retitled as follows:" Hornets Pass on Chance to Get Good Value in the Amnesty Process"
now lets go get oden or steismma.......i don't want darko....he is a bust and always injured....he will definitely not help our team....i go oden bcoz he is young and hungry and trying to prove something....darko has given the chance but did not take it....
So now the voice of the folk? Whatever. You threw a tantrum, taking your disappointment or whatever it was on someone for no reason.
No. It's what you said, WonderBoyRoy. Pout pout pout and throw a tantrum because your feelings got hurt. Boohoo. What, did you foolishing repeat the info before Mike got confirmation? Why the vitriol? Talk about unappreciative. Stop reading if you don't like it.
Don't read it and don't let your emotions rule you like an animal or child (at best). Or do a better job WonderBoyRoy. Of course, you can't, otherwise you would. Sit back and enjoy the stuff you can't do, or pout that you can't.
He wouldnt have to trade anyone away.. We have 10 mil cap space. They don't want Calderon, they'd likely make the trade for a second rounder and an exception
FUKKKING DELL... seriously brand for that cheap? we could have easily had him, I hope there's a better plan brewing because I am extremely frustrated that we missed out on a great opportunity. NIKKA SHIT
But, but, but what about my customized Elton Brand Jersey? Jk. It's all cool, MM. I appreciate everything on this website. It's great!
Brad Miller (helluva first name). As Michael just tweeted, there's the move we've been waiting for. To Miller 64, to Miller 64!!
Him saying he didn't get confirmation on something makes him a manager of someone's hopes? Weird. I would think not getting confirmations means don't get your hopes up. I can think of a million bids for Brand we could have in, by the way.
MM: Don't let the hating deter you from revealing what you hear in the future. I, for one, am happy to hear what your sources report, so long as it comes with a qualifier.
Yeah we obviously didn't even put in a bid on Brand. Hard to be more wrong than DJ Mikey Mac was on this one...
Hey Mikey Mac: I think you come across as more than a little arrogant / know-it-ally on occasion. Maybe that's why you're getting a good deal of heat over this one.
I'm very surprised the winning bid was that low. I wonder if the Hornets bid on him at all? Could have at the very least put in a $3-4mil. bid?
Boooo! Source: Brand successfully claimed by Mavs According to Adrian Wojnarowski, a league source has confirmed that the Dallas Mavericks successfully claimed Elton Brand off amnesty waivers on Friday. Details are coming in that the winning bid for Brand was $2.1 million, which is much lower than expected. In addition to officially grabbing Brand, the Mavericks are said to be on the verge of also signing free agent center Chris Kaman. If Kaman does, in fact, sign with Dallas, Brand will back up both Dirk Nowitzki and Kaman in the Mavericks' front court. Brand will also be a nice insurance policy if Dallas somehow ends up not being able to get the Kaman deal done. Brand will need some minutes to open up for him to be fantasy-relevant next season.
I can't understand why we didn't at least D.AUG. we need a PG and he was the best available PG left, and Indiana Pacers grabbed, then again is Aaron Brooks still available.if we do get an amesty player I would want someone who can teach Skynet post moves. And an inside game. Basically some who can improve the bigman on our team. So I guess that is E.Brand.
No doubt Scola would be the best player, but he is too expensive. I really like Brand for one year. I not to high on Haywood , but for a max of two years. We need some NBA toughness in the middle, which he can provide. I would not waste my time on Darko, he was a bust when he was the second pick in the 2003 Draft. (Wade went no. 5) He was a bust while in Detroit and this year with the Timberwolves. His claim to fame is he is 7 ft.
There is absolutely no good reason we would offer Scola. It literally makes no sense from a basketball perspective, or a financial perspective.
I know I've heard that Greg Oden wants to sign with the Miami Heat (No surprise). Anyways, I think it might be nice if we took a chance on this guy. I know he's about as delicate as a bag of potato chips, but if we can take a chance on him for a cheap deal let's do it. He could really bang bodies with Anthony Davis in the low post. Then, we'd have 2 big bodies down low. I think those 2 guys could really defend the basket. What do you guys think about that?
I think Brand would want too much PT and 4 years is too long for BH. Scola also eats too many minutes from the 4 and doesn't solve our need for a big body. I can't believe I'm saying this, but of the four choices, Darko seems like the best fit. Ok, I need to find my way back from the twilight zone.
Why dont we go after Mcgee??? Gordon obviously doesnt want to be here... i say go after Mcgee and find pg and another sg... i personally think that dj augustine would fit perfectly... then sign either courtney lee, belly, foye, or mayo
Listen thug no one is going bid over 3 million on a player who skills decline and would rather play in Dallas he said he wanted to play in Dallas and he got his wish.Theres others on the market.Dispite that Demps want long term answers to this team it look like it will be short term answwers unless they get Haywood and outbid Charlotte and get Scola and outbit other teams.
I trust your batting average, Michael. Anyone paying attention today saw how neither you or anyone else here CONFIRMED anything regarding the Brand-to-the-Hornets possibility. Keep swinging.
Fellas, fellas- no need to fight. We are all trying our best here. I am more than happy to keep any info to myself if people deem it more harmful than beneficial. Personally, I like the batting average of my sources, but if others don't, I can stick to the straight ahead stuff. I prefer it anyway to be honest
Jason, You're right - maybe something else IS brewing. I hereby find myself in violation of the 247 "Don't Judge Any Move (or lack of) In A Vaccuum" statute. I await my hearing! *smiles*
Doesn't bother me at all. If people can't see all the good that we produce and instead focus on a rumor we heard that I said dozens of times was not yet confirmed, then that is their choice. I get the 'hater generation' and I choose to ignore. Too many quality people out there who appreciate the hard work we do to focus on them.
I completely agree with this. We have plenty of scorers/shooters on this team assuming Gordon comes back. I also think Davis is a very underrated scorer. While it is a developing offensive game, it is further along than some think. He won't lead the team in scoring per game next year, but he will on certain nights. What we really need is a true defensive center that can embrace their role as a defensive stopper. That's not what Scola is and don't see how he fits with Davis and Anderson to begin with. He's only 6'9" and this team doesn't need another PF that can score. It needs a true center who can defend and rebound.
Scola doesn't fit any need on our team. Brand would be an upgrade from Jason Smith, while Darko would not.
We only have 3 frontcourt players. He can get around 25mpg, so I don't think there will be any problem giving Brand PT.
Mcgee wants Brook Lopez/Roy Hibbert money. Im a big Javale fan, but not at that cost. And Augustin is headed to the Pacers.
And Brad is thinking... or... maybe something else is going on that chewed up our space? Changed our mind?
I think there is one way to make sense a Scola bid (Hey, im Argentinian, love this guy!). What about getting him, give him a Landy kind of role (6th man, bench scorer) and in a year you have a good player you can use in a deal. The thing im not sure how it works is the tradind of amnestied players. Read it cant happen till next year, but what about the salary? Just the bid part is taken in consideration if we trade him next year? Or that the team willing to take him get the Hou original contract? If it is just the bid, there you have a great player on a cheap contract that paired with a pick could bring back serious talent.
Cmon now... Darko avg 4ppg last season. Whatever back-to-basket game he has, doesn't result in points. Is he serviceable? Sure I guess so. But I would rather use Jason Smith as our serviceable big man, and get a player of starting caliber.
That's a no brainer depending on the price. I actually think there would be interest from Oden in coming to NOLA as well. A young team with lots of potential, a long 19 PF that will immediately make an impact on the defensive end, if we keep Gordon, combined with Rivers, thats two electric, playmaking guards. He would basically be asked to sit in the paint and defend/block shots. I know he has interest in Miami but they are so hamstrung financially with the contracts on the books that I don't know if they would be willing to bring on such a massive injury risk, or they would even have interest. Spoelstra keeps talking about playing small and interchanging positions seemlessly, that doesn't work with Oden.