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The Eric Gordon Saga: Something Still Smells Fishy
As we look deep into this ongoing drama, it is clear to see that something just doesn’t add up
It has been four days since Hornets247.com caught up with Eric Gordon and got his perspective on how he has been treated by the Hornets organization. In the interview, he made it a point to showcase the fact that the Hornets have made no effort to give him an idea of their long term plan, including but not limited to, whether or not he was a part of it. He claims that they talked to his agent, but not to him and he has no idea whether or not the Hornets will match the offer, nor does he know why the Hornets drafted Austin Rivers as opposed to going after a big man.
Something about this just doesn’t add up in my opinion. Dell Demps has yet to go on record to answer Gordon’s allegations, but what we do have are a series of statements by credible sources that show that what Gordon alleges is not Dell’s typical M.O. Both Chris Paul and David West have said that they were included by Dell Demps with regard to the moves that the Hornets made in their final year in New Orleans. Anthony Davis stated after he was drafted that he had long conversations with both Dell and Monty about how this roster will be built and he was excited about the plan. And even Ryan Anderson’s agent has come out and said that Anderson had long conversations with Dell and Monty about the future of this team.
Both Dell and Monty have gone on record and said that Gordon is the team’s best player and they will bring him back. There is plenty of evidence that Dell and Monty go out of their way to inform their great players about the plan for the franchise and include them in the process. Yet, they both call Gordon a great player and according to him, he has not been included in the process at all.
I don’t buy it.
Somebody here is lying, or as Roger Clemens might say, they are “misremembering.” It just doesn’t add up, which leads me to believe that one of the following two things is true:
1. Dell and Monty said everything they said about Gordon being a great player and their willingness to match so that they could get the most value possible for him in a sign and trade.
2. Eric Gordon is twisting the truth with the sole intention of getting to a city where he can be the face of a franchise
I can be convinced of either scenario, honestly. I am biased to #1 because I have long said that I would do anything to avoid giving Eric Gordon the max. His injury history is a red flag that I can not personally overlook and a small market team can not afford to have a player who eats up 25% of their cap space sitting on the bench for 25-30 games per season. If Dell and Monty agree with me, then they have done a masterful job executing their vision. They can actually sign and trade Gordon now without upsetting the fan base, in large part due to Gordon’s immature comments.
I can also buy #2, because a precedent has been set that appears eerily similar. Joe Johnson could have been a part of a potential dynasty with Phoenix, but instead, he wanted to be the face of a franchise in Atlanta and he talked his way out of town by saying similar things. Don’t think that players and agents don’t remember what works. If Gordon wanted out, these series of ‘untruths’ would have been the perfect way to get what he wants.
Either way, we are being sold a lie by somebody and we will likely know who it is tonight at 11:01 CST. If the Hornets pull off a sign and trade, we will likely know that this was Dell’s master plan all along. If Gordon signs the offer sheet, effectively killing any possibility of a sign and trade with Phoenix, we will know that the Hornets have always intended to bring Gordon back and EJ’s tactics failed miserably.
Personally, I am waiting on pins and needles. I love the slow exposure of a “mis-rememberer.”
Update on stalemate: http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/07/new_orleans_hornets_general_ma_17.html
The only 3 things from Phoenix that I would if I were Demps would have to be Marshall, Gortat, and an unprotected first round pick. I wouldn't consider anything else.
People are forgetting that this is a business. Both parties are trying to get what they want: Gordon, a max deal, and the Hornets, their star player for as much of a bargain as possible. Everything Gordon has said to this point leads me to believe his heart is in Phoenix right now. But that's only because they offered him a max deal, made some early moves in getting Dragic and Beasley, and told him he'd be the franchise guy for years to come. I would be pretty flattered if I were him, too. And the Hornets have had other business to deal with, such as acclimating their new rookies to the team. With the buzz around New Orleans about Austin Rivers and Anthony Davis, it's clear that the Hornets will never be Gordon's team. I have no difficulty believing the Hornets haven't contacted Gordon, and were letting him enjoy the free agency period. By the time training camp comes along, Gordon will be more than happy playing here in New Orleans, for one of the rising stars in the coaching ranks, as well as with the most promising #1 draft pick in years.
There is another perspective that is just a viable. By Dell stating they would match any offer, he hoped to reduce the number of teams offering to Gordon with the hope of keeping the match below the max level. Looks like it worked. Hornets will re-sign Gordon once the Suns' offer is officially signed. Story over.
Why isn't anyone mentioning a sign-and-trade with the Pacers? It seems like a deal that would switch Eric Gordon (an Indy native and Indiana alumni) for Danny Granger (a New Orleans Native) makes more sense than any. We could package Jack in there in exchange for Collison as well. PG Collison, SG Rivers, SF Granger, PF Davis and C Anderson looks like a great starting five to me. Just saying...
Just in from ESPN.com: The Clippers have discussed signing Bellinelli with their mini mid-level exception and various sign-and-trades with the Hornets, one of which involves small forward Ryan Gomes and a pick heading to New Orleans.
If Phoenix went for the S&T for Gordon, they were probably have to give their two best assets in Gortat and Dudley (cap friendly contracts), cash considerations (mid-level exception), and 1-3 1st round picks. Another thing was Phoenix could have been looking to do a S&T with their two restricted free agents in Lopez and Brooks. In my opinion, besides the draft picks & Gortat, there was no other assets that could help shape the team. In addition, we will have to take on a bad contract like Josh Childress, who has been a disappointment. If the reports are true that the Hornets will officially match EG's offer, then they are taking a big risk. Also, EG has to FORMALLY apologize for putting down the city because you can't have the crowd cheer for you if you put down a city and its organization. As a Hornets' fan, I can't support a guy who does not want to be here and talk crap.
Will have to wait until morning to see if Hornets match Suns' offer sheet for Eric Gordon. Sheet won't be officially delivered until then Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20Htcotu6 what does that meannnnn?? fed ex is slow??
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt Will have to wait until morning to see if Hornets match Suns' offer sheet for Eric Gordon. Sheet won't be officially delivered until then. https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/222919049343025154 Shut 'er down, people. Rest up.
Pacers said they will match the offer sheet and Blazers decided not to extend an offersheet to Hibbert: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8154390/sources-portland-trail-blazers-sign-roy-hibbert-offer-sheet If something similar happens and Phoenix decides not to extend an offer sheet to Gordon, What will happen? Do we have to make an offer to him, Or, Will he simply sign the Qualifying Offer then to become an unrestricted free agent next summer? During that time we can see if he can stay healthy and make the decision whether to keep him for long term or not, right?
wait so if EJ didn't sign a Phoenix offer since the deadline is passed (was it even officially given to EJ?) does that mean that hes more likely to sign the qualifying offer and play out the year? Or do negotiations start up again from scratch since there are no contracts on the table anymore??? LOUD NOISES
I think if the Hornets don't sign him then we need to get something good out of the sign and trade, but if we do sign him I will be happy too. Eric has not had any long term injurys and high scoring shooters are really fun to watch. I think if he is not injured he is an all star. So I think we win unless we lose him for nothing. Does anyone remember when he hit that game winner against Phoenix? Good times...
EJ is coming back. We all love the him. He just made so bad choices. I'm sure this will all blow over when he gets here. Please don't give him a hard time when he gets here. I was like that when I was 22 too! (not Monty)
Really hope the Hornets don't match and it has nothing to do with EJ not wanting to play for the Hornets. He's always injured and he isn't a max player. With EJ, we won't be good enough to make the playoffs but our draft pick won't be very good either. We'll be committing $14.5 million to a guy who is pretty much guaranteed to miss 20+ games. This team needs a complete rebuild. Let's roll with Davis, Aminu, Anderson, and Rivers. That's a nice young core AND we'd have cap space to add more pieces.
I'm curious as to why the two sides are not speaking directly to each other. That seems odd. Might I say it "smells fishy"?
Nabbing Granger sounds great but I would have major reservations about starting Rivers in his rookie season. If we lose Gordon I think we need to pick up a quality 2.
These guys are saying that the offer sheet will be here tomorrow, and that's when we'll know if we match. It's not clear to me if it's signed, but it seems that way.
Ohh man!!! That sux. So if you guys have to wait till the morning, that means i have to wait even longer, considering its only 10pm where i am. DOH!
Any of that and more is possible. Also, they might just take care of business in the morning like civilized adults.
Mind if I ask you something? Are you a STH? Cause personally, I'd like to go for it at some point. We have to start something now so we can build ourselves into a contender before having to extend Rivers/Davis. Last year was excruciating. The year before was downright annoying having to watch a hobbling CP3 give hobbling effort wondering why MT5 was on the bench. The year before we lost CP3 for 50-60 games. It does cost effort/money to go to the games. I'd like to have something to root for this year, even if it means betting on EG10 to stay healthy.
No. We just know what people are saying. If what is reported is true, both sides don't mind it leaking. If it's not true, the Hornets would say they are matching to try to show the Suns they are serious. The Suns would say they are not getting him to appear disinterested and not rile up the fanbase. So either way, the report does not distinguish between ongoing negotiations or ceased negotiations. We just know that any sign-and-trade is not agreed on. Thoughts?
I don't think Indy wants him for the max. Chances are if they did, then his heart would have been in Indy.
Scratch that. I just took a closer look at Granger and realized his production has steadily declined since 2008-09. Not worth it.
If we sign EG, then getting a pick for Belli seems good. I agree Gomes is no prize, but he is injury insurance, a veteran presence (which Monty wanted) and an expiring contract. Looks like a win to me. I'm gonna guess CP is saying nice things about Belli (who I will actually miss)--I am surprised by that.
How does this help us? Gomes is a 29 year old SF with a $4M expiring contract who can't get off of the bench for the Clippers. Why give him minutes over Aminu and Miller? If the pick is a 2nd rounder, and that is a crap shoot. If we sign and trade Belinelli, I don't think we take Gomes back (even for a (late) 1st round pick). Also, Is CP3 saying good things about Belinelli to the Clippers? Quite possibly.
Jason, I know this was discussed recently, but, what effect does Rashard Lewis signing the $2.8MM deal with Miami have on our cap situation? I seem to recall that it wouldn't be a huge amount, but it helps.
I think we should keep him, but part of that might be my impatience and knowing we more than likely won't make the playoffs without him. Long term it might be best to take the picks as the suns will be a lottery team for years to come. The extra cap space is also an added bonus.
Just under a quarter mil. It amounts to a little sweetener in a contract or a weekend bender for the ownership.
A long time until the rules say he can't sign it. The Suns can decide to pick up the offer, I think.