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Hornets May Deal Chris Paul Before Season

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Published: December 5, 2011

It’s looking like there is rising sentiment within the organization for the Hornets to deal Chris Paul before the season, according to sources close to ESPN. Considering there’s is just about no chance of the Hornets keeping him past the season, that’s great news. The only question now is whether or not we will see a complete and utter tear down. Either way, Dell’s seemingly more and more inevitable decision to deal Paul now, as opposed to after the season starts, leaves me confident in his ability to oversee what will likely at times be a difficult rebuilding process.

Sources told ESPN.com that Paul and Hornets general manager Dell Demps did have their expected sitdown at the team’s practice facility Monday and that the tone of the meeting was amicable. But Paul, sources said, did not tell the Hornets that he is prepared to sign an extension before the regular season opens Christmas Day, which only increases the likelihood that the Hornets deal the star guard this month.

That, of course, is contingent upon finding a palatable deal, but sources that the Hornets are determined to avoid the circus that swirled around the Denver Nuggets. Carmelo Anthony‘s standoff with the Nuggets went from September until February’s trade deadline before Denver finally completed an extend-and-trade deal with the New York Knicks.

It has long been assumed around the league that keeping Paul made the league-owned Hornets more attractive to prospective buyers, but sources told ESPN.com on Monday that the Hornets believe that they will be more appealing to potential suitors if they can stabilize the organization by bringing a resolution to the Paul saga as soon as possible.

100 Comments

  1. JNR

    December 5, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I’m past crying about it. We need to move on and find the best deal possible. Real fans who understand know that good things are still in store for our team. We won’t let this thing destroy us.

    And I, for one, don’t hate Chris Paul. I understand it. I just hope he can find what he’s looking for. It makes me sound like an ex-boyfriend who has been stepped on and mistreated, but it’s true. He gave us some good times, and now it’s time to have some good times even if he’s not here. I couldn’t be any more excited about it, honestly.

  2. QueenBee

    December 5, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Wait. The Hornets haven’t traded Paul yet?

  3. nola70118

    December 5, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Demps, do what you gotta do. CP, if you don’t want to commit to us, we sure as hell aren’t going to commit to you. Thanks for playing and good luck with the rest of your brilliant career.

    I have all the faith in the world Demps and Monty are going to make great things happen. Go Hornets.

  4. QueenBee

    December 5, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Anyone know how much sources get paid? I’d like to apply.

    • okithor

      December 5, 2011 at 9:17 pm

      I think ESPN’s source is hornets247.com for a bit of infinite recursion.

    • 504ever

      December 5, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      The Yahoo Sports, ESPN carried, story about Paul’s agent’s ultimatum to trade Paul to the Knicks was total bull, but this story isn’t. Ha ha ha. Why does Paul want to go to GS or the Clips? That makes no sense and is never mentioned in any story.

      • NOS-3rd Gen

        December 6, 2011 at 4:13 am

        Overall maybe they should do a 3 team trade sending Paul to whomever as long as we get Monti Ellis and D.Jordan.

      • NOS-3rd Gen

        December 6, 2011 at 4:16 am

        I am saying that If CP3 wants to leave of course. unlike everyone else I would’nt want to deal CP3 away. I ‘m only saying this as a option!!

  5. Jalil Davis

    December 5, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    about time peace out chris paul i wish nothing but the best for you but My team the HORNETS here??? I love you guys HORNET4LIFE…..I have the utmost faith in you Dell and Monty do what you guys do and win this team a championship GEAUX HORNETS!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Hornetsworldwide

    December 5, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    If GSW land Tyson Chandler then that could be a deal breaker for Chris Paul committing long term to GSW. I personally prefer a deal to LAC where Emeka Okafor goes aswell. Its good knowing that the worse case scenario if Chris Paul wont committ to GSW or LAC, that BOS seem willing to take CP3 regardless of whether he wants to stay longterm. Hopefully a trade happens before the season starts so both parties can move on.

  7. andy

    December 5, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Makes you look back on last year and wonder if Chris’s lack of aggression at times was just him mentally checking out on the Hornets.

    Even in the playoffs, game 6 taking nine shots? His last game in college he intentionally fouls himself out of the NCAA tourney in Overtime out of frustration, etc.

  8. andy

    December 5, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    any chance D West has told him he’s not staying?

  9. notoriousBEE

    December 5, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Who are these “sources” within the Hornets organization? This sounds like a pile of B.S. to me.

    • edbballin504

      December 5, 2011 at 9:00 pm

      Exactly! How does detailed information from a meeting between only a GM and a player get leaked by sources??? Must have been a robotic fly on the wall owned by ESPN to get this info. The fly’s name is BS! Those guys just want buzz and wanna be paid attention to, no accountability.

      • Chuck

        December 6, 2011 at 1:41 am

        Here’s an idea of what happened:

        (meeting ends, Dell Demps walks outside)

        Random Hornets guy: “Hey Dell, how’d the meeting go?”
        Dell: “Not good, I don’t think we can convince CP to stay so we should see what we can get for him before this becomes a circus like Denver last year”

        (10 minutes later)

        Adrian Wojnarowski: “Hey Larry, heard anything from Demps about the chat with CP?”
        Random Hornets guy, aka Larry: “Yeah, here’s what happened…”

        Here’s an idea of what didn’t happen:

        Random Hornets guy: “Hey Dell, how’d the meeting go?”
        Dell: “F*CK YOU PISSANT, I WILL NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT MEETING TO ANYONE, ESPECIALLY NOT YAHOO AND ESPN!!1!!1!!11!”

      • NOS-3rd Gen

        December 6, 2011 at 4:19 am

        That’s Funny Joke CHUCK keep’em comin!!!

  10. m-W

    December 5, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    ESPN reported Lebron was going to Chicago last year. So what. It’s all rumor until it happens.

  11. saZam

    December 5, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    I may be crazy but I think cp3 is overrated and we should deal him

    • edbballin504

      December 5, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      He’s not over rated but I definitely feel that in this system, we could be successful without CP3 if we have better pieces everywhere else. CP3 really only showed his true form in the playoffs last year. There were many nights I recall sitting in the Arena upset at CP3 for being so passive. Finishing the game with less than 10 points was rough, but we’d still win games. I think we would shock teams even without CP3.

      • da ThRONe

        December 5, 2011 at 9:53 pm

        He was over coming the knee injury. He was fresh early on, but that knee wore him down

      • edbballin504

        December 5, 2011 at 9:56 pm

        Well if his knee aint 100% I dont think we should pay him a max deal over 5 more years. We might end up stuck like POR with Roy. Let him go now while theres value.

  12. NOLABanks

    December 5, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    If we are able to sign Jamal Crawford & Deandre Jordan like rumors are suggesting idk why CP3 wouldnt look to resign. A starting 5 of:
    CP3
    Jamal
    Ariza
    West
    Jordan
    ^Contender
    We fix our bench up and get some pieces we are a title contender with that team.

    • da ThRONe

      December 5, 2011 at 9:51 pm

      I like Nick Young over Jamal Crawford, but that squad is just as good as any that’s being mentioned in a trade right now.

      I said it in my original comment. If we can’t build a contender around Paul than what hope do we have to build around anybody were being offered?

    • Chuck

      December 6, 2011 at 1:42 am

      Nothing about that team is even close to a contender. Crawford is a ball hog, Jordan has no offensive game, and there would still be no bench and West/CP might still have bad knees.

      Get over it, trading CP is the only way to go

  13. ForrestSkinnard

    December 5, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    This is going to lead to a chain of bad events for the Hornets. The franchise can barely encourage people to attend consistently with Chris Paul there. Without him, the franchise will lose its attendance. They will likely be moved to Seattle or some other city with bigger market potential. He wants the Knicks and the Knicks only, but guess what! the Nuggets took all the Knick bread and butter from the Melo trade which means the Knicks will have nothing to give for an early trade. Chris Paul just like like Melo will refuse to sign any contract for more than a year which means that any team crazy enough to pick him up will be shooting for the championship this year. So it looks like not only will Chris Paul escape from the big sleazy, but also the Hornets franchise in its entirety. New Orleans personality cannot support teams, it couldn’t even show up without bags on its heads to the Saints games before they won the superbowl. Wah Wah

    • Jason Calmes

      December 5, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      I approved this comment so you could be exposed for your lack of facts.

      Denver man, I’m sorry you got hurt and want everyone to be as miserable as you. It won’t work here. Try another Hornets blog.

      If you want to talk about basketball, including the Nuggets and their situation going into this year and beyond, we’ll be here.

  14. edbballin504

    December 5, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    OK, I just looked at some Steph Curry highlights and I have to admit…i am sold! Please bring him to the Hornets! IM IN! For so many obvious reasons, he’s perfect for the franchise going forward.

  15. da ThRONe

    December 5, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I think we’re seriously underestaminating Chris’ value to this franchise. We will not be receiving anywhere close to market value. Having a bunch of warm bodies and draft picks is just as much of a gamble as trying to keep CP3 here.

    There’s no guarentee that any pieces we aqcuire won’t leave in a few years(outside of any rookies we draft). We have the cap space any many teams will still need to amnesty or trade guys to get under the luxury tax. We should take a stand and try to put together a championship level team now anyways. If we can’t do that around the best PG in the game. What chance do we around Eric Gordon, Josh Smith, Andrew Bynum, or Seth Curry?

    • da ThRONe

      December 5, 2011 at 9:48 pm

      *Steph Curry

  16. James

    December 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    is it true the clippers dont want to include eric gordon in the deal now??
    If so the GSW trade is looking pretty good right about now!!

  17. da ThRONe

    December 5, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    I think the one thing people keep over looking is who is going to want to stay here that will be a difference maker(even if not as good as CP3). Gordon has 2 years one of which is as a RFA and Curry has 3 years left 1 being a RFA. We could be having this very same issue over again in a few years if we make any of these trades. THEN WHAT? Just keep trading guys away for way less than market value because they will leave anyways?

    • andy

      December 5, 2011 at 10:50 pm

      Gordon and Curry will want their first Bird contracts as its their first money contract. CP3 already got his. Big difference.

      • da ThRONe

        December 6, 2011 at 12:17 am

        And what’s to stop them from forcing a S&T like Carmelo? We’d be right where we are now. Either allow them to leave and get nothing or S&T them for some value.

      • Chuck

        December 6, 2011 at 1:48 am

        One thing to stop them is pride. One problem with CP’s generation (Lebron, Wade, Bosh, CP, D Will, Melo, etc) is that they all cashed in faster and bigger than any generation before them and were hyped since the time they were in high school (or earlier in Lebron’s case) without ever really achieving anything. Look at that list. Wade has one ring and Melo carried his team to a national title at Syracuse. The rest of them have never won anything, yet they think they should be able to dictate exactly who they play for, how much they make, and what they can do anytime they want.

        The next generation of stars, like Durant, Westbrook, Curry, Rose, Griffin, and Love don’t seem to think that way, they seem happy to play in smaller markets for fans that love them. We always knew that Lebron, Wade, and Melo had shiny lights in their eyes, but the newer guys seem turned off by that stuff and content with being beloved like Duncan, Ginobili, Pierce, and Dirk were.

        Or maybe I’m just stupidly optimistic…

      • andy

        December 6, 2011 at 2:59 am

        da_throne – again Carmelo is not a good example since he was already on a big money contract.

        Generally people like Curry and Gordon sign their extensions a year early, and generally with the team that drafted them. The player, usually making $3-4MM a year then gets the max locked in and it provides insurance against them being hurt and missing out on a $60 million dollar guaranteed payday. The players don’t have the leverage in this case, the teams do since the teams can provide that insurance, which is a BIG deal since they haven’t cashed in yet.

        Thats why lebron, melo, wade, howard, paul, williams, there were never any stories about them going elsewhere or wanting to play elsewhere when they were still on their rookie contracts. Its only after their SECOND contract, after they’ve gotten the big money is up, does the player have the leverage, because they’ve already banked so much.

        If you trade for Gordon or Curry, 99% of the time you have them for 5 years.

    • da ThRONe

      December 6, 2011 at 11:40 am

      Curry and Gordon most likely won’t be max deal players anyways. We would be forced to over pay to keep these guys which becomes it’s own problem in itself.

      Basketball is a sport where great individuals tip the scale. there’s about 11-13 guys in the league right now. We have one and should do everything in our power to keep him. Because if we lose him without at least close to his market value we will just continue to fall into a hole. Until we lose the franchise or are lucky enough to get our hands on another player that good.

  18. Chris

    December 5, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Chris Paul will be a Knick….

    The Hornets have no owner, wont be big spenders, only have 5 players currently under contract and most important….CP3 has demanded a trade, to the Knicks…

    Iman Shumpert, Landry Fields and Toney Douglas are all good young players, Chauncey Billups can go to the Lakers for a first round pick and Lamar Odom who will play the 4 for the Hornets…

    PG-Jack/Douglas
    SG-Shumpert/Fields
    SF-Ariza
    PF-Odom
    C-Okafor

    • Jason Calmes

      December 5, 2011 at 11:00 pm

      How many did the Heat have under contract when they signed 3 big free agents? 1.

      And if they are such good young players, then why don’t the Knicks work through the years with them?

  19. mrclutch

    December 5, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about all of this. Please ge this damn trade done with whomever it may be. I am a CP3 fan but basketball doesn’t stop at him. I will have a hard time supporting a Diva athlete that chooses to take the easy way out. Instead of him bussing their butts to try and win a championship with their original teams, they choose to go and play with all star teams to make their jobs easier. It’s a problem with our youth nowadays. They look up to these same guys that want things handed to them and feel that it is the right way to do things. I’m just happy that the Hornets franchise will get a chance to start from scratch. I was sick and tired of having a PF that constantly pulled up for 17 ft jumpers and was soft on the boards and having a PG that was on again off again. Yes he is talented but CP3 must also look in the mirror himself and take some blame for not winning a championship as a Hornet in 08-09. Let’s just hurry up and get the best deal so we can all move on from this Drama. sad to say but I will not be IN until CP3 is either extended or OUT!!!!!!! Geaux Hornets

  20. chiefyoungblood

    December 5, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    glad we got dell and monty ya’ll

  21. chiefyoungblood

    December 5, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    I’m not sure which of you Hornets247 guys is leery about Minnesota’s first round pick but i’m with you , I have alot of faith in Adelman as a coach and if they can move one of their repetitive pieces for a two guard they could be a 40 win team . What picks do the Warriors have to deal by the way ? is Curry , Wright , and Lee and possibility on top of a first rounder , or are they interested in retaining Lee?

    • NOH Domination

      December 6, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      Minnesota will be improved this year no doubt, but there’s no way they’re making any kind of big trade. 1st of all it’s KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHNNNNN. 2nd they have the nucleus of players they want. Love, Beasley, Williams, Rubio and Wes Johnson who was the 4th pick just last year. There’s no way Kahn is trading any of those players before they’ve even stepped on a court together. I agree the Wolves will be insanely entertaining to watch and much improved but they’re at least a year away from the playoffs in the west which means it will still be a low lottery pick in a deep draft.

  22. J

    December 5, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    The warriors have the best trade offers so far do it Dell.

  23. Stefan

    December 5, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Nowhere did it say that the Warriors are willing to give up Curry without an extension. Paul would have to agree with this trade to the Warriors. As of now, Houston, Dallas, Boston, and the Clippers (no Gordon) are the only teams that are willing to trade without any assurance.

  24. Nick Malone aka yankeesman77

    December 6, 2011 at 1:06 am

    I wonder who Houston would offer? To me, the bottom feeder offers intrigue me alot more than any contender offer would.

  25. QueenBee

    December 6, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Check out the billboard. LMAO. Wowwwwwwwwww.

    Peter_R_Casey Peter Robert Casey
    by HowardBeckNYT
    RT @alexkennedynba: ORL billboard that urges Otis Smith to trade for Chris Paul: pic.twitter.com/NJSGFm4Z (via @DavidBaumann33).
    11 hours ago

  26. J

    December 6, 2011 at 9:14 am

    I like what i’m hearing about Bynum from the offseason workouts he’s healthy plus they say his knees are in great shape.If he can play a full season with us i think we’ve made a great deal.You can’t win without a big man at center.

    • AgentZiko

      December 6, 2011 at 11:38 am

      Bynum went through TONS of medical treatment this summer.

      ALL doctors believe his injuries came due to his bones not being fully developed and able to support his heavy load. They also believe he has FINALLY stopped growing at 7’1. He came into the league a touch over 6’11.

      Many of you aren’t sold on Bynum. But honestly, he and Kobe are my favorite Lakers. When Bynum was healthy, NO ONE in the league could stop him. He just didn’t get the ball enough on that team to show everyone how good he was.

      He only played 27 minutes a game last season. Thats not enough for a player of his caliber.

      Mark my words, by the end of their careers, when Dwights athleticism starts to die, Bynum WILL be the better player because of his skill set inside.

  27. RBee

    December 6, 2011 at 10:48 am

    I wish CP3 the best, but it’s time to move on. We Hornets fans will find someone new to love. Do you remember how much fun it was to watch Darren Collison? True, he wasn’t as good as CP3, and we didn’t win much, but he sure was fast. If CP3 wanted to stay, I’d be all in with him, but since he doesn’t I’m ready to wish him and his less-talented twin Christopher the best.

    • QueenBee

      December 6, 2011 at 12:04 pm

      Yeah that was fun and he was fast but I think fans want a little more than that for their money. We loved Dan Dickau too but we knew we wanted more than that.

  28. AgentZiko

    December 6, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Rumor out of LA’s side.

    LAKERS GET:

    CP3, Raja Bell

    UTAH GETS:

    Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza

    NEW ORLEANS GET:

    Al Jefferson, Paul Milsap

    I JUST heard about this 10 minutes ago from a source that it is being discussed.

    • NOH Domination

      December 6, 2011 at 1:19 pm

      hahahahahah good joke

      • sundance

        December 6, 2011 at 2:23 pm

        What is it that you don’t like? For sure I’m not a fan of Jefferson, but I really like Millsap (I had him in a trade a while back). It’s great for Utah too if they can pair Ariza with Kirilenko. Still, I don’t see how the Lakers get away with just giving up Gasol.

      • AgentZiko

        December 6, 2011 at 2:26 pm

        There is more involved. I dont know the full details yet. Draft picks and young players. Not sure which ones yet. I think the Lakers are offering up multiple draft picks, and the Jazz might throw in either Hayward or one of this years draft pics.

        And I’m being dead serious. It’s really being discussed.

        The Lakers are getting a third team involved, and the third team will either be the Jazz or the Wolves.

      • NOH Domination

        December 6, 2011 at 7:33 pm

        There’s nothing I don’t like about Jefferson or Millsap. I think Jefferson can be had for cheaper though and idk if you’ve heard other offers that have been floated, but this is nowhere near the best and doesn’t help us rebuild. Not to mention that Utah is NOT going to want to get Pau Gasol. There’s a reason they’re trading Jefferson and Millsap.. It’s because they already have a frontcourt logjam.

    • AgentZiko

      December 6, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      JUST got word of what the deal would look like if Minnesota is involved instead of the Jazz:

      MINNY GETS: Pau Gasol. Trevor Ariza

      LAKERS GET: Chris Paul.

      HORNETS GET: Derrick Williams. Michael Beasley. Anthony Randolph. Martell Webster. Luc Ridnour.

      • ur_gmas_daughter

        December 6, 2011 at 2:51 pm

        I’m not a real fan of either trade scenario

      • AgentZiko

        December 6, 2011 at 2:59 pm

        Clips will not give up both Gordon and Jordan. Only one. And as of now will not give up Gordon at all unless CP3 signs an extension.

        GState is NOT interested in giving up Curry or Thompson. They are more focused on landing a starting Center, and Small forward and are looking to move Ellis and Beindrins to acquire that.

        The best option is still CP3 for Bynum straight up. The Lakers are offering Pau for CP instead though, so they can move Bynum and Odom for Dwight.

        If Hornets took Bynum for CP3, Lakers wont get Howard.

      • William

        December 6, 2011 at 3:13 pm

        “HORNETS GET: Derrick Williams. Michael Beasley. Anthony Randolph. Martell Webster. Luc Ridnour.”

        Ridnour & Williams would be the only long term contracts. If Hoopshype salaries are correct for next year, Beasley & Randolph both would be qualifying offers & Webster has a team option. If those 3 don’t work out, we could flip them or just don’t give them their offers & cut ties & reload next year.

        Webster is still only 25 & has played for Monty before in Portland too correct?

      • NOH Domination

        December 6, 2011 at 7:30 pm

        That’s more like it, I can take Derrick Williams. Kahn would have to be an idiot to do this though, but it is KAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN

      • NOH Domination

        December 6, 2011 at 7:43 pm

        Give me Gordon and that Minnesota 1st rounder and I’ll be on my merry way. Maybe try to flip Okafor or Ariza for Kamans expiring and grab Aminu as well, but that’s secondary.

    • andy

      December 6, 2011 at 6:39 pm

      What would we do With Oak, Millsap and Jefferson? We’d be a little old and logjammed in the frontcourt and have no backcourt.

  29. AgentZiko

    December 6, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Other rumor:

    Steph Curry NOT FOR SALE and along with Klay Thompson are the only untouchables on the roster.

    • NOS-3rd Gen

      December 6, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      so this means we have a chance to get ME8. is that what your saying??

      • AgentZiko

        December 6, 2011 at 2:48 pm

        I think the Warriors are looking to land a big man, and a better small forward. I don’t think they are as into the CP3 extravaganza as some think. Monte for Iggy/Gay is what youll probably see happen.

    • Chuck

      December 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm

      1) Why the hell do you want Monta Ellis, he won’t help us win or rebuild, we’ll just be a late lottery team every year
      2) Why do you call him ME8? Has anyone ever called him that?

  30. J

    December 6, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Theres an angle here because if The Hornets will trade CP & Okafor to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom.plus sign Glen Davis,Landry,Crawford or Nick Young and Aaron Gray could be resigning the team.That will leave room for Marc Gasol or Nene i can see what Monty & Demps are thinking get bigger and tougher to compete in the west.

  31. J

    December 6, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Let me reinterate what i was saying was The Hornets get Bynum and Odom we can stack up on some more bigs like Glen Davis,Landry and Gray.Also sign Jamal Crawford or Nick Young at SG and sign Stuckey or Shannon Brown at PG.We will have a young and talented veteran team at the end of the day.

    • QueenBee

      December 6, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      You really like trying to make a mockery of this team don’t you? An even bigger mockery than it already is at times. Shannon Brown as our PG? LMAO.

      • carpo

        December 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm

        in fairness stuckey would be nice as a PG

  32. J

    December 6, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Shannon Brown off the bench PG not our starter come on i’ve more sense then that queenie

  33. J

    December 6, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    *than

  34. Blow It Up

    December 6, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Forget about winning now. They couldnt even do it with CP and the 2008 roster. They sure aren’t gonna against so-called super teams. Show me a team that won without building around franchise player acqired through the draft (which the hornets won’t have). Magic. Bird. Hakeem. MJ. Duncan. Dirk, Wade, even Pierce. Only DET who did have Tayshaun, Okur, and the real MVP (Most Valuable Piece) that season Mr. Larry Brown while being gifted Rasheed out of nowhere. Forget about winning now, and please rebuild through the draft!

    • BigEasyBaller

      December 6, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      The Mavericks weren’t a super team. Dirk was the only superstar on the team. Jason Kidd is old. Caron Butler hurt. Jason Terry is good but not a superstar. The Mavericks were a well built team. They put a bunch of roll players around their superstar and showed the world that you don’t need a bunch of big names to win a championship.

      That’s all the hornets need to do.

  35. Mikey

    December 6, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    CP, I feel for ya man.

    The state of the Hornets right now is like a ship with no captain. There is no discernable direction. That will not be fixed until this team has an owner other than David Stern. One cannot blame Paul for no wanting to wait for this to happen. Honestly, I think Chris genuinely wants to stay here, but given the facts of the Hornets situation, he just can’t do it.

    When you remove yourself from sensationalist media, I think both Demps and Chris Paul are going about this the right way. Paul is making his intentions clear to the GM, and Demps has a responsibility to do what’s best for this organization. Chris is a big name, so the media is going to blow this story WAAAAAAAY out of proportion.

    Now here is an interesting question: This newest CBA was, in some ways, a backlash from what transpired in Miami last summer. We all know this, but the NBA currently owns the Hornets. How then, could the NBA, given all their competitive balance talk all throughout this lockout, broker a deal that could send CP3 to the Lakers, knowing the Lakers are also targeting Dwight Howard. If this happens, what kind of message is the NBA sending to its fanbase? “We are all about competitive balance, except when it comes to the Purple and Gold.” I just don’t get it.

  36. Brandon

    December 6, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Just trade paul for steph curry and andris biedrins. At this point, Im getting tired of it.

  37. J

    December 6, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    What does CP3,Lebron and Mello have in common they’re judas

  38. BigEasyBaller

    December 6, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    So is everyone pretty much resigned to trading CP away. People keep talking about how we are Hornets fans before we are Chris Paul fans. Chris Paul has been the heart and soul of this franchise since we drafted him. Why are we so quick to look for replacements. We shouldn’t resign ourselves to the fact that Chris Paul is leaving until he is on a flight somewhere else. Chris Paul is the heart of this franchise, let’s not give him up yet.

    All of these rumors are just rumors until something actually happens. And until that happens I am going to be an avid supporter of keeping Paul in New Orleans.

    Jamal Crawford has stated that New Orleans is his number one choice to go. Havent we all been talking about that all the hornets need to compete is someone who can score. Well Crawford is pretty much asking to come here. So Dell make it happen.

    If CP really wants to leave, then we should trade him but the number one priority should be finding away to keep him here not find the best trade we can get for him.

    • ur_gmas_daughter

      December 6, 2011 at 6:29 pm

      On the same page!!! I’m tuning out all the media spins and just waiting for that big player NO needs (like Crawford). CP3 was supposed to be outta town for the last 3 or 4 years already and he hasn’t….we’ll wait and see.

    • andy

      December 6, 2011 at 6:52 pm

      hmmm just read the Hollinger breakdown. Worst rebounder in the NBA (and he’s 6’6) and doesn’t try on defense. Not a good recipe for success.

      • BigEasyBaller

        December 6, 2011 at 7:16 pm

        Being the broke college student I am, I dont have access to Hollinger’s break down of players. So I checked ESPN’s stats Belli averaged 1.7 rebounds a game and Crawford averaged 1.5 rebounds a game. If you want to throw out Crawfords 14 pts a game for Belli’s 8 pts a game because of a .2 rebounding difference you are absolutely crazy.

        When a player plays with Chris Paul his play picks up dramatically. There is no telling what Crawfords play would look like playing with a true PG like Chris Paul.

        We need a scorer, not a rebounder Crawford gives us that. Plus its a big name player that could convince CP to stay.

      • BigEasyBaller

        December 6, 2011 at 7:17 pm

        Plus the Hornets already have a “recipe” for success we just need a few more ingredients to throw into the mix.

      • andy

        December 6, 2011 at 10:00 pm

        Big Easy –

        Additionally, his rebounding went from merely poor to You Can’t Be Serious. Crawford is 6-6 and athletic; nobody expects him to outmuscle Kevin Love on the block, but you’d think a few boards would come his way just by dumb luck. Instead he rebounded only 3.4 percent of missed shots when he was on the floor, the single worst figure in the entire NBA. In a league that employed J.J. Barea, Earl Boykins, Aaron Brooks, Patty Mills and Pooh Jeter, among others, Crawford — who, again, is 6-6 — managed to land at rock bottom.

        This was not only the worst figure in the NBA last season, it was very nearly the worst in history by a player 6-6 or taller. However, it turns out that there was another 6-6 Hawk who was even worse — Randy Wittman posted a 3.3 in 1986-87, as did one other player (Jim Paxson in 1989-90). So Crawford will have to be content with the four-point play record.

        The rebound rate ties in with another phenomenon — Crawford just doesn’t play that hard on defense. He lacks strength but his length and lateral quickness should offset it, especially when he’s defending opposing point guards. It hasn’t worked out that way.

  39. Jalil Davis

    December 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    According towww.hoopshype.com it says the Celtics dont even require for CP3 to agree to resign but i dont think its true but if it is then hey have at it because we get Rondo, Jeff Green and 2 future 1st rounders but honestly if we can bring a third team in then i would be really satisfied but until then lets go with the trade talks Demps

  40. J

    December 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    In the celtics trade we get an all star in exchange for another so it wouldn’t be no lost we get a player that can play in our system plus we don’t have to worry about Rondo contract til after the 2014-2015 season.We pull this off and get Jamal Crawford and Glen Davis we’ve a young talented team.Do a sign and trade deal with West and him and Okafor to a team that would want the both of them i’m not sure who but if you think of team that would want let me know.

  41. Jalil Davis

    December 6, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    You Guys have it mixed up because when it says Hornets have the sixth lowest payroll it means that we have the sixth least money spend on Players and we spent about 42M and the lowest is Denver with 28M

  42. edbballin504

    December 6, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    If CP3 goes to GSW, what exactly would the complete trade look like? CP3 and Ariza for Curry, Wright, Udoh, 1st rounder?

  43. L_REAZY

    December 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    3-TEAM TRADE PROPOSAL:

    Hornets receive- Pau Gasol, Jameer Nelson, & Brandon Bass

    Magic receive- Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, & Trevor Ariza

    Lakers recieve- Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, & the rights to David Andersen

    EVERYBODY WINS!

    L_REAZY

    • trigga

      December 6, 2011 at 9:51 pm

      shit

    • andy

      December 6, 2011 at 10:57 pm

      We’d have about $50M in players signed and only $8M in cap room to get a SG and SF. Don’t think that gets us both prince and Crawford, perhaps one or the other.

      Lakers obviously do it and its not TERRIBLE for us, we’d probably stay in the playoff hunt, but why do the magic do it? Who plays point guard for them, and they’re still way over the cap.

  44. andy

    December 6, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    What I don’t understand is why all these superstar trades have to be for picks and crap. Who says no to this (I know the answer, but if I’m the clippers GM I do it)

    Hornets get:
    Blake Griffin
    Chris Kaman
    Eric Bledsoe
    Mo Williams

    Clippers:
    Sign Tyson Chandler as free agent
    Sign and Trade David West
    Chris Paul
    Trevor Ariza
    Marco Bellineli

    Clippers keep their Minny #1 pick, still keep Aminu for the future.

    They basically become the 08 Hornets that beat Dallas 4-1 in the first round and took the Spurs to 7, but have Eric Gordon as their starting SG instead of Jannero Pargo, and have 2 young potential guys in Farooq and the Minny pick.

    Clippers Become

    PG: Paul/Foye
    SG: Gordon/Bellini
    SF: Ariza/Aminu
    PF: West/Gomes
    C: Chandler

    You’re at $62M before you fill out the roster, and you need a backup Center but you are competing for a championship with that roster because its a SOLID 9 deep, AND you have the minnesota pick still.

    Hornets get Griffin, they aren’t complaining.

    There are all sorts of variations to this trade that can be done including taking an Amnestying Okafor (which won’t cost that much, someone will pay him a good amount and you’re only on the hook for the difference) to clear ALL of the Hornets bad contracts off their books in one fell swoop.

    • andy

      December 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm

      I assume you can get West and Chandler to get $10M/yr. Get chris Paul on the less money train like Lebron and Wade and you can make everyone happier if possible.

      • L_REAZY

        December 6, 2011 at 10:22 pm

        http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88qt3hl

        ….thats all I gotta say!!!

        The hornets can then spend money on J-Rich or Jamal Crawford or Tayshaun Prince, or even Caron Butler; imagine this Hornets team;

        F-Gasol, F-Prince, C-Okafor, G-Crawford, G-Nelson

        F-Bass, F-Pondexter, C-Gray, G-Belinelli, G-Jack

        THATS A GREAT TEAM! … DO IT DELL!!!

        L_REAZY

    • Chuck

      December 6, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      …and that’s why you aren’t the Clippers GM. They will never give up Griffin. Ever. Unless MAYBE they were offered Lebron for him

      • L_REAZY

        December 6, 2011 at 10:24 pm

        http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88qt3hl

        ….thats all I gotta say!!!

        The hornets can then spend money on J-Rich or Jamal Crawford or Tayshaun Prince, or even Caron Butler; imagine this Hornets team;

        F-Gasol, F-Prince, C-Okafor, G-Crawford, G-Nelson

        F-Bass, F-Pondexter, C-Gray, G-Belinelli, G-Jack

        THATS A GREAT TEAM! … DO IT DELL!!!

        L_REAZY

      • andy

        December 6, 2011 at 10:51 pm

        I know they won’t, but this is why the NBA makes no sense to me. Chris Paul was just ranked the 4th best player in the NBA. That’s Griffin’s ceiling. Paul’s already there. And not only are you getting Chris Paul but you’re getting a championship caliber team to go with him.

        If you keep Blake and somehow don’t land Chris Paul, then you’re lucky if you make the playoffs and then losing him 5 years down the road just like we’re losing Chris.

        If you trade all your young assets to get Chris, I don’t think you’re winning a championship yet, you still need more dominos to fall. That 9 man lineup is the favorite in the West tommorrow.

  45. J

    December 6, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    The Celtics have the best deal on the table Rondo-Jeff Gren in a sign and trade and future frist rd picks you use in the draft on trades for a player.you want an all star PG well here it is my money is on the Rondo trade.

  46. J

    December 6, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    CP3 is Judas and will always be in the people in New Orleans eyes just like Barron Davis.Jeff Bower is the blame for this franchise being in the predictament it’s in and having Dell Demps cleaning up the mess.Why during Bower tenure as GM he trade Chandler for an horriable Okafor contract.Chandler had more talent and with CP they were one of the best duo in the NBA.

  47. jmbell

    December 7, 2011 at 2:03 am

    “While Paul’s first choice is to join buddies Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire on the New York Knicks, he would sign a long-term contract to stay with the Lakers, according to a source with knowledge of Paul’s thinking. And Howard’s fondness for Los Angeles is well-known, leaving no doubt that he would commit to the Lakers long-term.” -ESPN

    Does any buy this?
    And who are these sources so confident about Chris Paul’s thinking?
    Better yet, how much “knowledge of Paul’s thinking” do they really have?
    Oh, how I could rant right now…

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