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My Worries about Just Passing it Along…
A few days ago I was given information from a reliable inside source that talks were ongoing between the Hornets and Cavaliers and I felt conflicted about posting the information on this site. My sources integrity could not have been compromised, so that was not the concern, as much as the fact that I simple do not like this new age idea of news reporters becoming news makers and sometimes it is hard to see that line.
With social media, twitter, blog sites, etc. word travels faster than ever and it is no longer good to report on a story; instead, you have to be the one to break it. Yeah, we have a few stories on Melo this morning, but really read over the majority of those stories. The first few paragraphs talk about the trade, but then the focus turns on: What’s NEXT? Denver might move Danillo, the Knicks will be going after CP3 or D-Will. This trade might lead to Troy Murphy landing in X city, Ray Felton is going to Y……. and on and on and on. Nobody wants to read about today, they just want the scoop on tomorrow.
I hold off on that type of journalism for the most part, but I do feel an obligation to report on things I hear from time to time when they come from somebody I trust. Somebody I trust told me 4 days before draft night that Darren Collison would be the pick, so I let it be known on several Hornets web sites. I was also told that MT5 would be a target either late in the 1st or early in the second. I reported that too.
I was told several days before this year’s draft that Pattrick Patterson would be the pick if the Hornets stayed at 11 (and believe me, he would have been) and that the three targets after the trade went down were Quincy Pondexter, Larry Sanders, and Craig Brackins. I let this be known right before the unfortunate draft day crash of Hornets247.
I am not trying to brag or justify my track record, I am just pointing out that I have shared in the past and I would likely share again, but I am conflicted on this as a member of the media. Why can’t we just wait? Why can’t fans just enjoy the present without needing speculation on events that might or might not happen? Why does an article about a trade whisper I heard get 5 times as many views as a solid piece that breaks down Okafor’s value to the team or an examination of Chris Paul’s clutch time stats?
This is part of why I am conflicted. The other part resides in the fact that I know 99% of things that are discussed never come to fruition. This is why I tend to only pass along the draft day rumblings that I hear, because teams have more control in that setting. The Hornets had a general idea of who would be available at #21 and because of that, it was pretty clear that Collison would be a Hornet. The trade front is so much more fluid and unpredictable, however. Every GM is a car salesman, and they have 29 customers they are simultaneously capable of negotiating with. I have heard dozens of stories where a deal appears to be done, and then minutes later the rug is pulled out from underneath them and a swap takes place between two other teams.
I know Demps talked to Cavs GM Chris Grant, but what I can’t tell you is how many other people each man talked to that day, or that week. This is why I personally feel uncomfortable passing the information along, and only do so if the conversations are passed the preliminary stage. Whether you choose to believe them or not is your choice, but I personally vow that I will never create something or pass along a rumor that comes from a source that I do not know or trust.
Full disclosure, I do not recieve any payment for this job and likely never will. We take all of the money that the site creates and invest it back into the site so that Hornets fans can have a credible, efficient blog that has the resources of a ESPN at their disposal. I have no desire to make a name for myself in this field, and in all honesty, if I wanted to be a full time NBA columnist for a major paper or website, I would have no problem getting that position. I have quality connections, am a relatively good looking guy in a field that has a bevy of “radio faces”, and a wealth of knowledge on the NBA.
I will never go that route, however, and therefore I have no incentive to fabricate stories just to drive up page views. I do this because I have the ability to do it and because I am privy to some information that others do not recieve and I feel a responsibility to pass it along when I deem it beneficial. The conflict is always there, however, and I don’t know whether I will be more forthcoming in the future, or if I will maintain my reluctance. But what I want all the readers to know, above all else, is that when I do disclose, you should know that I have done my homework and I will release any information with the upmost integrity.
By the way, has anybody heard the one about the Hornets trading CP3 straight up for D-Will?
Sometimes you just gotta laugh at yourself.
Hmmmn. Is Landry (unrestricted) a target for re-signing? Trying out D West's (soon-to-be vacant) roster spot for size? Dalembert, also expiring, also unrestricted, makes more sense as a 2 month try-out, or even Nene, if Hornets are prepping for the playoff run. Still, seems like too much to give up MT5 for a player that could walk in July. Especially since they could have Thornton's money this summer anyway by just not re-signing him. I'm starting to think this is a D West insurance policy, with a guy that may take a mid-level next year instead of the $$ D West wants.
Landry For Thornton, Andersen Agreed Upon Feb 22, 2011 22:29 PM EST The Kings and Hornets are close to completing a trade that would send Carl Landry to New Orleans for Marcus Thornton and David Andersen. Sam Amick of FanHouse reports that the trade call will take place on Wednesday. The Kings held Landry out of Tuesday's game. Via Marc Stein/ESPN (via Twitter) Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211292/Landry_For_Thornton_Andersen_Agreed_Upon#ixzz1EkYYWkGO L_REAZY
Wow MT5 / Anderson for Landry. Really pissed were trading Marcus. We cud have done another trade NOT involving marcus to get a quality backup big. Funny thing is now we got an amazing two guard combo of Inconsistent Willie Green and that Bum named Bellinelli. We got two career reserves getting minutes for us now at SG smh
As much as I love watching MT5 play, Carl Landry would be such a grear upgrade at the back up PF/C position.
Warriors Close To Trade For Troy Murphy Feb 22, 2011 22:15 PM EST The Warriors and Nets are close to finalizing a multi-player trade, according to sources. Golden State will send Dan Gadzuric and Brandan Wright to New Jersey for Troy Murphy and a 2012 second round pick. Murphy is expected to be bought out by the Warriors and he would then become a free agent after clearing waivers. While the Nets and Warriors appear to be firm trade partners, there are discussions that the deal could expand to a three-team deal involving Devin Harris. The Blazers and Mavericks are the two most likely destinations for Harris. Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter) Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211290/Warriors_Close_To_Trade_For_Troy_Murphy#ixzz1EkWooEOd L_REAZY
Landry was apparently being sought after by a lot of other teams, notably Indiana. This is pure speculation, but I wonder if we flip him again...
@WindhorstESPN If Carl Landry knows where he's going, he's not saying. But he was in a pretty good mood.
@STEIN_LINE_HQ Deal scheduled to be finalized tomorrow but discussions as of tonight had Landry -- held out of SAC's game at MIA -- for Thornton/Andersen
RT @STEIN_LINE_HQ: Sacramento and New Orleans closing in on deal that would send Carl Landry to Hornets for Marcus ... http://tmi.me/721WH 3 minutes ago via ÃœberSocial
STEIN_LINE_HQ: Sacramento and New Orleans closing in on deal that would send Carl Landry to Hornets for Marcus Thornton and David Andersen [via Twitter]
If we give up MT5 for anything other than a lottery pick, I am disowning the fricking Hornets and Monty Williams after this season. Don't have enough time on my hands to dedicate so much time to some idiots who can't get along with their talent for one reason or another. Half of the picks past the lottery don't turn out to be anything special at all. Look at our draft history. Marcus is a proven player. If we give him away for an unspectacular selection in an unspectacular draft, it will be proof to me that Monty's pride officially ran MT5 out of town. They better get someone back in return for Marcus. I don't care if he gets traded. Don't think that's the case. I will just be pissed if he gets traded for a draft pick. He's worth more than that. He isn't hurting our cap. It will pretty much mean giving up something valuable for a gamble that probably isn't going to be valuable.
Again, if it's for a player, then fine. I'm merely stating that if Thursday ends with us sans-Marcus and +1 mid-late 1st rounder I will be pissed.
if hes traded for a pick chances are it will be turned around and be included in some other trade. So ya it could be "marcus for a pick" but probably ultimately it will be marcus for somebody else now but that be my guess. I agree if its for a pick in the upcoming draft thats terrible
Michael, keep up the great work! I've been reading your posts for years and really enjoy it. Even from distance
I really hate to say it because i love CP3 and the hornets, but its starting to look like he might go to NYC. they have Amare and Melo who CP wants to team up with in the place they want to play. I dont see y he wud turn down NY, Melo & Amare to stay put in NOLA even if we do win
i think its all steamed from these wacky peoples ideas that cp hates us and wants to win somewhere else. im pretty sure theres no truth just people trying to scare me
I really want Gerald Wallace. I would love this starting lineup CP3 Green/Thorton Wallace West Oakafor
Mr. McNamara, I think what you are saying is perxactly what is is right about hornets247 and wrong with so many other sites. We have a reasonable group of folks who wrestle with numbers, stats, facts far more than I see in other places. There is a place for those who make sure that their fire gives the right amount of light and heat. The balance is important. I don't know if there is a prompt to this, as suggested here, but, as suggested here, you are only taken in the best possible way, even if there is a suggestion that you have a tv face, others a radio face, and potentially others have a face for podcasts...
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski As the Hornets search for frontcourt help, one target includes Sacramento's Carl Landry, league source says. M. Thornton in most offers. via Twitter
this is going to kill the blog.. No more Marcus post = 3 post a game :p Marcus is my favorite hornet i want him to stay with the team :(
Hornets Seek Trade Of Thornton For First Round Pick Feb 22, 2011 14:13 PM EST The Hornets are shopping Marcus Thornton around the NBA in search for a first round pick, according to sources. The Nets are amongst the teams interested in acquiring Thornton. Thornton, who was the 43rd overall pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, has averaged 19.5 points per 36 possessions during his first season and a half. But he has failed to receive consistent minutes due to his defensive liabilities. Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter) Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211260/Hornets_Seek_Trade_Of_Thornton_For_First_Round_Pick#ixzz1EinAzac0 L_REAZY
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vkn3kv NJ sends Denver a first rounder. PG: Paul, Sessions SG: Green, Smith SF: Moon, Jamison, Smith PF: West, Jamison C: Okafor, Gray
NOH / CLE / HOU http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ub4kla
I think getting a first for Marcus at this point would be a good thing, especially if it's part of a larger deal. He clearly doesn't fit in with Monty's system/style and it's better to get something instead of let him leave as a FA, because I don't think the team will be willing to pay a lot to keep him despite the LSU connections
mac i've been following the site since the end of last season and i have appreciated everything you've put up but i just feel like i cant wait for something to happen
apparently the hornets are shopping Marcus for a first round pick? hes too good for that IMO, im sure i wont be the only unhappy one if that happens
Don't Pass it along. We don't need another Melo-Drama... People get too much into this whole trade bonanza and act like this is Nba Live 1997. @AgentZiko: All of those names sound a bit too good to be true. What's the downside of this? Are we trading some picks in order to get the pieces in place?
According to Marc Spears we are shopping MT for a 1st rounder. I'm almost positive it would be for this deal if all these rumors are true.
Well ven if there won't be a trade that does mean he didn't burn a few phones while running the negotiations? I'm far away from looking at a GM only through the deals he made only.
Dariusz, I'm pretty sure a lot of people LIKE hearing about the rumors. It lets us know that our GM is actually working rather than leaning back in his chair, drinking, and cashing his check.