Just Passing it Along….

Hornets get: Antawn Jamison Gerald Wallace Matt Carroll Kwame Brown Jeff Teague Heats 1st Round Pick Cavs get: Trevor Ariza Jarrett Jack David Andersen Bobcats get: Marcus Banks Marcus Thornton Marvin Williams Hawks get: Ramon Sessions Jamario Moon Jason Smith Cavs 2nd Round Pick

One question: Why would the Bobcats trade Gerald Wallace? I love the idea of getting Jamison and Sessions ... but when you add Wallace's name to that possible trade I start to get overly excited. Before I get too excited ... (in the words of Scarface) just tell me why, Frank? Why would they trade Wallace to anyone? I mean, if the Hornets somehow got Jamison, Sessions, and Wallace ... and then executed a J.R. Smith trade ... Demps would be Exec.-Of-The-Year! F-West, F-Wallace, C-Okafor, G-JR Smith, G-Paul F-Jamison, F-Moon, C-Mbenga, G-Green, G-Sessions Assuming in some form of a trade the Hornets would have to part ways with: Ariza, Jack, Thornton, J. Smith, Gray, Andersen, Banks, Belinelli, & Pondextor. WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS!!!! L_REAZY

Hey guys...came across this from one of the Cavs boards. First off, for anyone hoping for Hickson, the only way he'd be heading to NO is if West was involved. He's been playing really well lately and is still only 22. The deal proposed is interesting, but I don't really see where it helps the Cavs that much. Gilbert doesn't care about paying Jamison's salary and has made that much clear. Unless they get a great offer before the deadline, the Cavs are better off waiting and trying to trade Jamison during the draft or during next year when he's a large expiring contract (and part of his salary may not get paid if there is a lockout). Jamison is perhaps the biggest asset they have, so I highly doubt they would unload him along with two picks for a package of Ariza, Banks, Anderson, and Jack. The Cavs are already heavy at guard, and Williams, Gibson, and Seesions are all better than either Jack or Banks. Ariza would be a decent addition and fill a position of need, but the other guys in the trade don't offer much. BTW, the reasoning for the Cavs saying they are willing to take on a long term deal is that they know they won't be a contending team again till several years down the road. It's already been shown that good free agents won't sign in Cleveland (just like the majority of small markets) so the cap space doesn't matter. The owner is willing to pay any type of salary or luxury tax. That means they are willing to take on a long term deal if they get quality picks or young players in return. The thought is that by the time the Cavs are competing for the playoffs again, that big, long term contract will be an expiring deal that they can hopefully flip for an impact player. Great strategy in theory but obviously many things can go wrong. Anyway, the proposed deal I saw just doesn't make sense when you factor in everything the Cavs front office has said all season. They know they are rebuilding and the only real assets they need to worry about trading right now Moon and Parker if they want to. The Cavs are in the business of gaining assets, whether that's draft picks or young talented players. This trade really satisfies nothing that the Cavs are after. For a deal like this to work, a 3rd team would likely have to be brought in that could offer the Cavs more in the way of draft picks and/or young players. It would be a great move for NO though. Jamison has been playing pretty well this season and his $15 mill would clear off the books just in time for Chris Paul.

Is Danny granger still available?

From the comments over on the Cav's forums there is no way this rumor has any truth to it. They even believe that the Cav's are willing to take on salary and are not just looking to shed it at this time. I would do the trade in a heartbeat but it just seems too good to be true. The Hornets just never seem to come out on the good end of trades.

What about this trade; probably unrealistic, and we're taking on a lot of salaries, and our roster gets tremendously thin....but wouldn't this be perfect? haha. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vcesjc

If Nuggets deal Melo to Nets, we can get Troy Murphy because they said they'll find a third team to trade with and we would get murphy and a 1st round Nets pick. Not bad. Maybe toss JR in there too.

1st time commenting, wanted to throw a wishful thinking trade out there... http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=46glu83 Combines the last few rumors i.e. Nuggets, Cavs and Bobcats

i think we should just wait till melo gets traded to the nets... which seems very likeely. Murphy is going to get bought out by the nuggets and we offer him a solid deal.... we keep what we have defensively and get a boost with troy coming in off the bench

I had came up with a kinda sorta similar trade to you Sincerely Yours96 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4gqka93 We get Antawn Jamison Ramon Sessions Joey Graham Gerald Wallace Cavs get Trevor Ariza Jarret Jack Jason Smith / or Marco Belinelli (Depending on if we rather keep a big or a small. I'd rather it be Smith so that we can keep some 3 point shooters on the team) David Anderson Bobcats get Marcus Thornton Q-Pon Jamario Moon Marcus Banks I hate putting Thornton in this trade, but just tryin to make it as realistic as possible. and in order to get bobcats to listen and get in on this deal Thornton might be what it takes.

Does anyone know if Iguodala is still available?...Sixers could be a possible 3rd party

CHA / NOH / CLE : http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4jmkuwp

All this stuff sounds interesting, but these trade scenarios give us more scoring at the expense of finding another big who can guard the rim. How far can that take us in the West? Is the thinking that we only use a piece of the trade exception now, cause those things will be more valuable with a hard cap coming, or could we maybe dangle the rest of it to pick up a serviceable 4/5?

Hornets get: Gerald Wallace D.J. Augustin Kwame Brown Antawn Jamison Cavs 2nd Rounder Bobcats get: Marco Belinelli/Marcus Thornton Jason Smith Ramon Sessions Jamario Moon Heats 1st Rounder Cavs get: Trevor Ariza Marcus Banks Jarrett Jack David Andersen

Earlier in the season everyone was bashing Ariza, now that he might be traded everyone loves him. Just saying. You know who you are

Final point to consider, and then I am done on this trade: How does the fact that Jamison is earning 15 million next year effect the team's negotiations with David West? From all reports, the Hornets are more than willing to give him something in the ball park of 4 years/40 million, but would Jamison effect that at all? It is easy to be a GM from your couch, but the reality of it is hard. Join us all day on February 24th as we will have a live chat heading up to the deadline. Should be a fascinating couple of hours, start planning your excuses for staying home from work NOW!

Also, just to note- the trade increases our payroll by 7 million next year (and 9 if you count the two picks), but decreases the payroll by almost 9 million the following year, which is the year that CP3 can opt out. This trade could allow the Hornets to enter that year with only Okafor, a resigned West (hopefully), and a couple young guys on rookie contracts on the books. That could mean resigning CP3 and adding another star, if CP3 can recruit one. Wishful thinking, but it is crucial to note that this trade could open the door for increased flexibility in the summer of 2012, at the expense of increased flexibility this year. And to add onto the "wishful thinking", the Hornets would love to find a way to make Gerald Wallace the SF we get back in this deal, via three-team trade. I don't even want to speculate, but if you guys would love to throw out some proposals, I will happily read. If the Hornets can somehow add Ariza and Jamison without going over the tax, I would be all for it. Just don't see how it gets done.

Quick update, here is the exact proposal Cleveland has on the table for us: Jamario Moon, Ramon Sessions, Jamison, 1 Heat first rounder of our choice, Cleveland's 2011 2nd rounder, cash (unspecified amount) for Ariza, Banks, Jack, and Anderson The Hornets still want to bring in another team or would like to work out a deal where they get a more viable starting SF, but supposedly like the upgrades of Jamison and Session, who bring more scoring off the bench. Cleveland's pick would likely be the first pick of the second round, which could produce value, and the Heat pick along with the cash help ease the blow of Antawn's huge salary next year. The Hornets also believe that Jamison can play with West and Okafor to close out games and Moon can give them similar defensive production to Ariza in the middle stages of the game. I still think this deal is only 15-20%, but I am most interested by the fact that Ariza and Jack are on the table. Is Sessions an improvement over Jack? The numbers say yes, but I am not so sure, although he does have a more favorable contract. Paul might not like to see Jack go, but I am sure Monty and Dell will tell him that Jack will get more playing time in Cleveland. Also, might a seperate trade in which the Hornets land Paul's other buddy JR Smith ease his worries. Marco and Jason Smith for JR Smith? CP3/ Sessions Green/ Smith/ MT5 Moon/Jamison/Q-Pon West/ Jamison Okafor/ Gray/Mbenga Smith and Jamison would likely play 30 minutes at SF, with Moon just being a spot player. That combo, along with Sessions upgrades the offense considerably- but isn't this supposed to be a defensive team? 6 days until the deadline!

CP3 needs to play better thats the bottom line!!! 2yrs ago I watched him win games by himself!!!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=48fu9yl Two ideas I had. My biggest problem, is I think the team defense takes a hit by losing Ariza. Before his return I believe the numbers were something like this. Before Mek went down, the hornets were holding teams to 92 ppg, then in the games following up to Ariza's injury the Hornets allowed 100ppg. Then when Trevor went down, allowed 102ppg until his return. Now we are back to around 99ppg. So it seems obvious that his perimeter defense is worth around 2-3 ppg. WE NEED MEK BACK! (sorry for the sidebar) I cant see there being any way they would give up Hickson, as he is someone you can move forward with as a great compliment to Varejao. But if they are willing to possibly give up multiple 1st rounders, even if they are pick 27+ Heat picks, they might be willing to swap Jack for Sessions. This gives us an upgrade at backup PG and eases long-term salary tied up in Jack. i wish there was a way to do the trade without losing Ariza, but that would require moving Jack, Banks, Green, Andersen, AND shed Gray or Mbenga to stay under the tax. So we would have to have another team willing to take 2 of the players involved. It just seems pretty wild of a trade without Ariza. I don't know if I like it, time will tell.

Ariza has been a bust, moving him isn't that big of a deal.