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Vitriol need not Apply

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Published: February 13, 2011

Joe tried to point this out a few days ago when he reposted our comment policy. He put it after the jump, so maybe some of you didn’t read it.  We’ve tried things like moratoriums and having chats specifically about contentious issues.  Nothing has helped.  I’m going to say it unequivocally.

I’m tired of hearing the same tired arguments after every post, no matter what happened in the game.  I’m tired of the personal attacks.  I’m tired of the repeated name-calling.  So please, keep your comments civil, don’t repeat your point in every comment thread, and if someone else has made your point, please click “Like This” and then don’t post it yourself.

I’m all for people saying what’s on their mind, and I almost never moderate posts that aren’t simply spam – but I’ll be damned if this becomes a Yahoo! or ESPN-style comment community, full of vitriol and sheer unpleasantness. 

So, I’m going to start deleting comments outright if they attack someone or don’t add anything new to a conversation.

Please, let’s make this community an intelligent and fun one to visit.  Thanks.

39 Comments

  1. emir

    February 13, 2011 at 11:30 am

    this policy comes into place i might actually decide to register

    i used to have a login during the magical season and the community that has come on here since then has taken things to far with their love/hate of certain players

    hopefully things go back to a friendly community talkin about a team/sport we all love to watch

  2. 42

    February 13, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Thanks for writing this.

    I don’t think I’m alone in toeing or crossing the line before while also thinking we are in a trough at the moment.

    For my transgressions, my apologies to everyone.

    We can maintain our purpose while keeping our passion and pride intact.

  3. nikkoewan

    February 13, 2011 at 11:51 am

    please do moderate this site Ryan. It’s becoming another one of those times. I bet you if CP3 ever gets traded(*knock on wood he doesn’t get traded and prays that he gets his opportunity to play for a contender for the Hornets*), that this site will be burned to the ground. These are tough times for the Hornets, what with all the uncertainty that is clouding over the franchise – The ownership, the deadline, the CBA, the Paul dilemma, the West dilemma, the Thornton conundrum, the recent slide, the Melo situation, the “NY and NJ and basically every other team drooling over CP3 situation so they won’t deal with us to make us worse” situation. If worse comes to worst, this site will be another one of those petty sites, and i hate for that to happen because i’ve enjoyed going to this site for years, even when i wasn’t a member. so please. moderate it. don’t be too strict that passion can’t be felt, but don’t be too lenient that tantrums start going again.

  4. nikkoewan

    February 13, 2011 at 11:52 am

    OH BTW, really sorry to Ryan, Joe and Mike for not being able to participate lately in this site. I’m almost graduating and the work load is killing me. I’ll make amends when March comes around. 🙂 i promise! 😀

  5. Michael McNamara

    February 13, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Couldn’t agree more. I would rather have no dialogue than what I have seen on here as of late.

    Looking forward to a bright new day!

  6. Mark

    February 13, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    It doesn’t help that it takes some time for my internet to load all these comments (and that Like/dislike always ends up loading so much later, shifting the page).

    I miss the days where we all rallied behind blaming Devin Brown.

    • Hornet Seantonio

      February 13, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      for w/e reason this site seems to load slow for me too. I don’t have a problem with the repetitiveness of the posts but not keen on fellow fans of the same team goin at each other doesnt make much sense. Just wait till next year, since we are winning the championship this year, this sites gonna be overrunn with bandwagonin turd molesters.

  7. JCS

    February 13, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    I left Yahoo Sports specifically because of the multiple account foul mouth trolls. If that is their home, then so be it. I would prefer to be with Ryan, Joe, Mac, and people of their ilk.

  8. Ron

    February 13, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Plz also censor the foul language. It seems as though there’s no middle ground between “drunken sailors” and “walled kiddie gardens”.

    (There might be a way to modify the code to replace certain strings with ####.)

    • jib

      February 13, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      ehh leave some in there, I like the emotion. If fans weren’t emotional we wouldn’t be seeing those nearly as much, but the sh*t and f**k words I could go without seeing. Save those for yelling at Jason Smith fails, Aaron Gray fouls, bad Marco nights, etc. in the arena or on your couch everyone;)

      • Ron

        February 13, 2011 at 6:24 pm

        I don’t remember advocating the censorship of emotion.

      • Hornet Seantonio

        February 13, 2011 at 6:42 pm

        ive always been fond of cursing, and feel its a right not a privilege.

    • Ron

      February 13, 2011 at 7:52 pm

      ive always been fond of cursing, and feel its a right not a privilege.

      Animals feel, humans think.

      Anyway… your God-given right to foully express your emotions is equally balanced by my God-given right not to hear/see those foul emotions.

      So, exert some self-control and do your cursing in private or among like-minded folk.

      • JCS

        February 13, 2011 at 8:13 pm

        I agree with you 100%

  9. Juge

    February 13, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    laying down the law!

  10. OkiThor

    February 13, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I agree. I like the MT5 debate as much as the next guy, but not everyday. Maybe twice a year so that we can garner perspective from more then one game – Once at the begging of the season to capture prospective and once after the season to recap.

    And congrats Nikko on finishing up your degree!

    • nikkoewan

      February 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      thanks! Math rocks my world! Geaux Hornets!

      • 42

        February 14, 2011 at 1:22 pm

        That’s 3 of us, right?

        At least?

        Nikke, let me know if you ever need to talk about math jobs over here.

      • nikkoewan

        February 14, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        sure 🙂 thanks 42 🙂

  11. Hornet

    February 13, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    I apologize for the language I used last night. Won’t happen again.

  12. Monty'sDoghouse

    February 13, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Can we at least curse when we get mega-screwed by the refs? That Phoenix Suns goaltend was pretty bad.

    • Ron

      February 13, 2011 at 7:55 pm

      Can we at least curse when …

      Sure. To yourself.

      Or be creative: “frog-buggering worm spawn”, for example.

  13. paul

    February 13, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Great!
    Finally, again.
    But me thinks it useless.
    Those that have a shortage of thought, imagination and words will always revert back to cussing or just in your face responses.

    Like they’er talking to a foreigner that can’t speak their language….they just shout louder and think it makes themselves more understood.
    If shouting work, well then…that person just must be stupid.

    And to answer the response above, cussing is not a right. At least it’s not one that has to be heard by others.

  14. Ryan Schwan

    February 13, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I don’t mind cursing, actually. There are times when it’s legitimate.

    My focus isn’t the cursing, but the repetitive, non-productive discourse that has started degenerating into name-calling.

    Anyways, I’m sure we can get back on track. We’ve done this before, and usually it works for a few months. Then we do it again. And it works for a few months. 🙂

    Human nature and all that.

  15. Ryan Schwan

    February 13, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Oh, and I’ll look into the delay that occurs when comments are pulled up.

  16. Schmide234

    February 13, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    My comments get delay as well. not only that but sometimes with google chrome the site will just crash and be unresponsive. it will be the only site that does it tho…at the same time tho it works with explorer. go figure.

    just thot id share!

    • Gaiking

      February 14, 2011 at 8:00 am

      This happens to me too, it is usually when a post containing the podcast player is on the page, the plugin for the podcast makes chrome unresponsive 🙁

  17. L_Reazy

    February 14, 2011 at 1:57 am

    If the Hornets wanted to make a trade for Rip Hamilton, and had to include either Jason Smith or David Andersen in the deal who would you send to the Pistons with Willie Green & Marcus Banks?

    I sort of like David Andersen’s jump-shot better than J-Smith’s, but you can’t argue with having another 7-footer in Jason Smith.

    …but, who would you rather have backing-up David West now since Aaron Gray will begin to get minutes backing-up Okafor?

    L_REAZY

  18. DownUnder

    February 14, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Its a sensitive area and it just goes over board sometimes. It goes away when we win but comes up again when we lose, maybe we just get angry from a loss and would rant about it to someone we know is a hornets fan who went through the same thing. Would you vent political frustrations with a pin pal from another country? Probably not because they just wouldnt understand what your going through. Same thing probably applies here.

    We would like people to see things our way but its just not realistic. We stay stubborn on the belief that we’re the ones that are right which clouds our judgement of the others perspective, it’s human nature.

  19. L_REAZY

    February 14, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    This board is frustrating sometimes when you try and talk basketball, and get a conversation going. It does seem like their are a few people who are obviouslt journalist, buddies on this forum, or know one another, and they only respond to each other.

    Well, I don’t know anyone on this ‘chat’, nor am I a journalist, but I’m still a basketball junkie like the next ‘poster’. Furthermore, I’m a Hornets fan. So, when I or anyone else make comments, and questions go unanswered or it doesn’t get a conversation going because we’re not one of the ‘buddies’ it becomes frustrating.

    I really do like this forum, because there aren’t any Hornets fans in Minnesota where I live. I feel for the most part my comments are relevant to what concerns the Hornets, but people only want to talk about Marcus Thornton’s playing time, who the next owner will be, Collective Bargaining Agreement, and other front office stuff. When are we ever going to focus on basketball strategies, details from style of play, or even spend more time talking about realistic trade scenarios?

    No offense, but if your name isn’t Michael McNamara, Ryan Schwan, Joe Gerrity, 42, AgentZiko, or HiMyFirstNameIsSteven no one is interested in what you have to say on this chat as if no oneelse is credible; and thats when people begin the obvious disrepect. It’s just frustrating because a lot of us Hornet Junkies have question that often go unanswered aside from the individuals I mentioned; who might be respected journalist and buddies. I respect everyone’s knowledge of the game on this chat, but its not reciprocated by others.

    L_REAZY

    • 42

      February 14, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      Reazy,

      I think you and I have had some good chats in the past.

      I gotta tell you, you post alot of trade proposals, and I tend not to reply to those.

      I do read everything everyone says, you included, however. If I need to do a better job or making that clear, then I will. And I appreciate you having the courage to say so and the aplomb to do it well and politlely.

      I respect you has a junkie and a member here and I’m going to think about this.

      • nikkoewan

        February 14, 2011 at 1:19 pm

        i read your trade proposal as well. I just don’t think i can contribute anything to what has already been said, that is why i wasn’t posting/replying. my apologies.

      • L_REAZY

        February 14, 2011 at 6:06 pm

        Much respect!!!

        I figured that might be the case … no one is really interested in (for ex.) trade proposal talking points all the time. I too get a little drained from the ‘what-if’ scenarios.

        I’ll definitely mix it up a bit in future. I often touch on a lot more topics, but lately I’ve been pysched about the player that Demps might bring in to help the team.

        L_REAZY

    • paul

      February 14, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Ummm… dissagree.
      I am not one of the main charators, but I seem to get replied to whenever I say something important enough to recieve one.
      Ok, so maybe that’s why they are few…..
      But seriously, the problem for me on this sight is the problem I ahve with the internet as a whole…I wish I had never clicked “send”.
      It amazing after all thse 57 years I still don’t get it that whenever I say write something, looking at it a few days later, it seems an idiot wrote it.
      When I look ver my college philsophy papers from all thse years back, it’s a wonder I even graduated.
      Silly, stupid and meaningless.
      FULL of wanting to be heard yet without anything to add.

      Same here.
      I want to add, but reading what I posted later, I feel like I should appoligize to the sight.
      Sometimes I am so glad Monty or the players don’t read what I (we) say because our lack of real knowledge of what is truly going on must make them roll their eyes and chuckle!

      It’s all in good fun and an avenue for us to discuss our thoughts and perhaps make friends long distance.
      But to be honest, we should take ourselves a little less seriously o the matters here.

      I mean, thank god we aren’t discussing REAL improtant stuff.

      Looking foward to a more lively yet fun sight…..

      • paul

        February 14, 2011 at 2:46 pm

        And I know I bring smiles to everyone’s faces with my spelling alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Diane

    February 14, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    It being Valentine’s Day I say its okay to disagree but be civil cause there is nothing wrong with your opinion cause were all different – just be civil.

  21. Samuel Carpenter

    February 15, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    the Orlando magic need too trade Nelson, Bass;Anderson, Q Rich, Orton, and Duhon for Paul, West and D.J. Mbenga……..yes we ( Orlando) loss most of are depth but are starting line up would be Paul, Reddick, Turk, West, and Howard with back ups of Gil at both point or SG, SF and Center of J Rich, Earl (the pearl) Clark, Mallik, and D.J. Mbenga and NOH got alot of good young talent and sum future cap relief has did we . we also will probably need to give up sum cash or something……but it can and will work and has a Magic fan I dont like giving up so much but im satisfied with the hypathetical

  22. OkiThor

    February 16, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Can we get a karma like system developed like slashdot?

    http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml

    That way good comments get moded/posted up while bad comments get hidden away.

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