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Game On: Raptors @ Hornets
Toronto Raptors (13-27) at New Orleans Hornets (25-16)
Offensive Efficiency Ratings: HornetsÂ 102.5 (19th), Raptors: 104.3 (15th)
Defensive Efficiency Ratings: Hornets 99.7 (5th), Raptors: 109.3 (28th)
Pace: Hornets 91.5 (29th) , Raptors 96.3 (9th)
The Raptors come to New Orleans for an afternoon game on Martin Luther King Junior day. Tip off is at 2:00 ct, and the Hornets desperately need to pack the house. With four games left to trigger a lease extension, they need to average 15241 fans per game for the rest of the month.
You have now witnessed the glory of Jerryd Bayless and Julian Wright. Have they shown anything that makes you think New Orleans may one day regret giving them up?Bayless has had a few really nice games for the Raptors, and most of us appreciate how aggressive he is off the bounce. The guy can really stand to learn a lot from Calderon and has the makings of a solid back-up point in the NBA. The best part is that he makes half of what Jarrett Jack does for about the same level of production. Wright on the other hand hasn’t had as big an impact as Bayless has, but he has a much bigger cult following. The guy is one of the bestÂ defendersÂ the Raptors have, but doesn’t see the floor when a defensive player is needed during certain games/situations.To make matters worse for fans, every time he sees the floor, he makes things happen. However, the hornets wont be regretting giving them up, they definitely aren’t top level talent.
With a record of 13-27, Toronto is within shouting distance of both the playoffs and the worst record in the league. Is this one of those years that you just blow everything up and hope that you wind up drafting a stud, or would the fans prefer the team tries to make a run at the playoffs?The reason the Raptors are a treadmill team (a couple wins between the playoffs and last in the league) is the lack of talent. Sure, DeRozan, Bargnani and Calderon are good players, but they have proven that they need lots of help. I speak for a lot of fans who wish for a top 3 pick the next couple of seasons until things start to turn around for this team. No one wants to see this team sneak into the playoffs and get thumped 4-0 in the 1st round.
What are your thoughts on Bargnani’s defense? Is that an area where he’s still improving or is it essentially just a lost cause?Brutal, the guy is absolutely a brutal defender and rebounder (the other team can’t score when you have the ball right?). He’s been in the league for 5 years now, so this is pretty much what we’re going to see from him. I think what bothers me the most is not that he’s a poor defender, but that he doesn’t even freaking care to try to give it a proper go, It’s very aggravating.People tend to liken what is happening with Carmelo Anthony and Denver to what could one day happen to Chris Paul and New Orleans. I happen to think that if Chris Paul departs, it will play out similarly to what happened with Chris Bosh and Toronto. Which do you think is better for a franchise overall; to have an unhappy star who publicly desires to be traded before his deal is up, or to have a quiet star who leaves when his deal expires?I had actually fooled myself into thinking that Bosh would stay after flirting with other offers for some reason. Now I’m violently jaded, and fully believe both Carmelo and Paul will be playing for other teams rather soon. I think this is an interesting question since I’m of the belief that you always have to be buying to be successful in this league. For example; the Sonics traded a very productive Gary Payton to Milwaukee for Ray Allen. At the time of the trade, Payton was averaging 21pts 9ast, but his career quickly faded a few years after that. We all know how good Ray Allen’s been for the last decade, no brainer trade now that you look at it.
Both the scenarios you describe are bad for a franchise, since you always have to replace your talent and not get hosed in the process. If I were the Hornets, I would look at moving Paul very quickly while his value is sky high, and still under contract for another full season after this.
As for your question, if I were to choose, I’d want a quiet star who leaves when his deal expires, much like Amare did with the Suns; but spend the cap space much more effectively.
InjuriesToronto:Reggie Evans â€“ Out
Peja Stojakovic â€“ Out
Leandro Barbosa â€“ Out
Sonny Weems â€“ Day to day
Jerryd Bayless â€“ Day to day
Jose Calderon â€“ Day to day
New Orleans: Marco Belinelli â€“ Day to day
Enjoy the game!
Notes from the Arena
that was probably the worst officiated game of the year.The NBA game took 2 steps back today. thinking of switching to college full time
Since I watch the Hornets on the NBA league pass, I'm not sure if it's just me (and nba league pass users) that have this problem. Do you all ever have home games in HD? Seems like the only Hornet games I see in HD are away games.
Detroit whooping on Dallas. Utah loses to the Washington Wall's. Phoenix goes into MSG and beat the Knickerbockers.
WOW that was nerve-wrecking game towards the end. Jack and Okafor should definitely get the co-player of the game award. They were definitely essential to the victory today. Oh yeah and Vordecus definitely helped even with an off night in the 4th quarter by getting the Raptors to foul early. Ugly execution in the first half and part of the second though. We were missing easy shots after easy shots. I wanted to punch the wall.
damn griffins got 40 and 14 and the game isn't even over yet. question hornets fans would you trade dwest and cp3 for eric gordon and blake griffin? i have to admit that i would seriously think about it.
Mek has been playing really well this season. West too. I don't know if he likes Monty's system or if it's just a contract year but as I've said before, he's been a main constant on this Hornets team. I love D-West. CP3 didn't have a great game but his teammates stepped up while he struggled.
damn by next week we could possibly be in 2nd place in the SW, but knowing mark cuban the mavs will probably pull off a rental for the remainder of the season for melo or something similar.
i said pretty much the same thing yesterday but when cp3 can have terrible games and the hornets still win that's a really good sign. although like every NBA fan i miss those monster CP games for like 32 pts 16 ast 8 reb and 5 stl. but i think every hornets fan knows he's not close to 100%. also jack has been stepping up big time lately, once cp3 is healthy and if jack continues to play like this i'd say the hornets would have the best 1, 2 punch PG combo in the NBA.
Does he really have to have those types of games though? Monty is making this team more of a TEAM. He doesn't want a one man pony show. Which is why I think he's trying so hard to make Ariza and Belinelli 'creators'. Those guys aren't creators but his system is a bit different than just letting Paul do his thing.
17 points and 16 rebounds, yeah okay I must be wrong. He sucks... Go Hornets, I'll take any win we get!
Wow. West isn't even shooting 80% at the ft line this season? He's usually one of the better ft shooters on this team.
glad the refs got that out of bounds call right, thats about the only thing they've gotten right all night
Glad we will have three all-stars representing us. The coaches will definitely put in Okafor and West.
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Kobe and i think KG did it on their first year. (i'm pretty sure Bryant did) And there're not so many rookies in nba history to have a season like Griffin's one. Last 20p+10r+3a was a guy named Larry Bird. I wonder who is this Bird-guy :P ?!
as of right now though i think griffin has become the most exciting player in the NBA to watch, i've started watching a lot of clippers games lately just for him. plus he's probably going to do the dunk contest so he would have a really full AS weekend and if i were the clips i wouldn't want my future to be logging that many minutes and taking the risk of injury for exhibition don't mean anything events.
Griffin needs to play in the rookie/sophomore game like most rookies do. There have been rookies that had better first half starts to their season than he did so I don't know why he's so special that he should play in the ASG. He'll have time to get in the actual ASG.
ya i agree about west not making the team, although isn't it kinda an un written rule about rooks making the AS team? i mean lebron or cp3 didn't make it their rookie seasons. as far as i know i think only magic has made an all star appearance in his rookie season. i do think mek deserves an appearance though, the last 10 to 15 games he's been putting up pretty big double doubles, hopefully the coaches have noticed. I think for forwards it should be Dirk, Durant, Love, Griffin, Melo and hell maybe Odom. Then for Centers Nene and Oak.
West's first free throw attempt all night? Now you know this is some bull. That tells you right there how the refs are calling this game.