Whered Thornton go? O wait Monty is a dumass and plays favorites and refused to pull green which cost us the game. Monty is really starin 2 piss me off
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Game On: Warriors @ Hornets
Hello all!Â I’m back from my long vacation, having watched two dozen six-foot long nurse sharks feed on fish guts from three feet away, snorkeled multiple times in crystal clear water over fish-filled reefs, gone 100 feet underwater in a submarine, walked on two Volcano craters, clambered down into a pair of lava tubes, went to a Luau, saw what my boys insist are the “Best Fire Dancers the World has Ever Known”, ate Poy and cleared the Hoover Dam of Caeser’s Legion.Â And only one of those isn’t true – and it’s probably not the one you think it is.
So, after my long Hiatus, I spent the past two days watching lots of the basketball I missed while away and tonight I get to see it live again.Â Yay!Â McNamara and I may even be able to get a new Podcast up for those of you who are waiting in the next day or so.Â And you are all waiting, right?Â Anyone?Â Bueller?
Anyways, I was poking around on Despair.com(a site I love) and found this and wanted to share.Â I love Chris Paul, and he’s a genuinely nice guy off the court, but this is a perfect depiction of the way he plays basketball.Â I thought about editing it and putting his face on the guy on the left, but decided to go with the original.
Matchup: Warriors(13-21) @ Hornets(21-14)
Off Efficiency: Warriors 103.5(14th), Hornets 102.0(19th)
Def Efficiency: Warriors 108.6(28th), Hornets 99.1(5th)
Somehow, the Golden State Warriors have escaped my notice most of this season.Â Usually when I write a game preview about a team I have a pretty good idea already about the team’s weaknesses or strengths, but I find myself starting out this preview without any clue about what is going on in the Bay Area except that Monta Ellis has scored a bunch of points and that David Lee missed some games with teeth stuck in his elbow.Â I guess that’s what happens when a bad team has no notable rookies on the floor and continues to be a generally bad team.
Anyways, I’ve spent a while studying my favorite stats sites and perusing the GSW blogs, and here’s what I feel is a pretty solid take on their team:
The Warriors are a donut team as usual, with the vast majority of its scoring originating from its two guards, Ellis and Curry.Â Both of those guards are only slightly better than average as scorers, however, as Ellis is only a middling shooter and doesn’t capitalize on his free throws and Curry capitalizes on his free throws, but almost never gets to take any.Â In the end, neither player scores more points per shot than David West does and both are much more turnover prone than the Hornets forward.Â Would any of you be comfortable with two David West’s as the Hornets top offensive options?
Still, unlike the Hornets, the Warriors do end up as a solid offensive team since none of their primary offensive options are outright terrible.(Hello Ariza!Â ‘Lo Willie!Â And, uh, Howdy Thornton?)
Where the Warriors break down, as has always been the case for the last few years, is defensively.Â They allow a large number of shots within 10 feet of the basket and don’t contest them well, generating easy points for opponents.Â They also force a very small number of shots in the 16-23 foot range compared to the rest of the league, allowing their opponents to avoid the least efficient shot in basketball.Â To top it off, despite strong contributions from David Lee, the Warriors are the sixth worst rebounding team in basketball and despite forcing a good number of turnovers, don’t force enough to balance their own turnover woes.
In short, they can be scored on, and they aren’t so good offensively they can’t be stopped by the Hornets strong defense.Â It seems to me the game will come down to wether the Hornets hit the open shots they will be bound to see.
Warriors: Both Biedrins and Lee have struggled with injuries recently, but it is likely they will play tonight.
PG: Stephen Curry v Chris Paul
I still feel Stephen Curry is a shooting guard.Â He’s an amazing shooter with a decent handle, but without much in the way of passing skills.Â Paul will be able to run the team with little resistance from Curry, as well, so while I expect these two players to score at a roughly equal clip, Paul is going crush the Warriors and generate tons of open shots.
SG: Monta Ellis v Marco Belinelli
In past years, Ellis shot 20 times and got 20 points, which is awful.Â Now he shoots 20 times and gets 25 points, which makes him no longer a liability.Â I doubt Belinelli will have the footspeed to keep up with Ellis(few do) so Ellis will score a good bit.Â However, on the other side, this is an undisciplined defensive team – the sort Belinelli usually shines against.Â He may make this not as big of an advantage as you’d think.
SF: Dorell Wright v Trevor Ariza
Wright is a solid all-around player.Â He’s not the most efficent scorer, but he gets nice numbers of blocks, steals, rebounds, and isn’t a bad passer.Â He can also knock down a jumpshot.Â Ariza will also knock down a couple jumpshots a game.Â Too bad he has to take about eighty-four.
PF: Vladimir Radmonovic v David West
Radmonovic has rediscovered his shooting touch from three this year, but otherwise, he’s nearly useless.Â I do worry that West won’t chase him out to the three point line enough and we’ll give up some easy shots, but West should make up for it on the other end abusing VladRad in the post.
C: David Lee v Emeka Okafor
Amundson has been filling in for the injured Biedrins and Lee.Â It’s possible both Lee and Biedrins may start the game, but not likely.Â Either way, Lee has been a disappointment so far for the Warriors after the first couple weeks as he’s struggled with injury.Â While his rebounding numbers remain good, his efficiency has dropped off dramatically – probably because he’s playing with two combo guards who feel the pick and roll is a really a pick and shoot.Â Lee was remarkable finishing the pick and roll, but he’s not getting much opportunity here.Â If he wasn’t struggling with a bad back, this would probably be even, but for now Okafor has the advantage.
Reggie Williams, Andris Biedrens, Rodney Carney, Louis Amundson, Ekpe Udoh
Willie Green, Jason Smith, Jarret Jack, Marcus Thornton, Pondexter?
The Hornets bench has been slowly failing.Â While Jack has picked up his game a little, Thornton, Green and Smith have not been making shots of late, and Monty doesn’t really trust anyone else yet.Â Hell, we all know he barely trusts Thornton.Â The Warriors on the other hand have a really solid sub in Reggie Williams, who is their most efficient scorer and second best shooter.Â Biedrens can still control the boards and run the floor, and Amundson and Carney aren’t bad.Â If the Hornets second unit let these guys get out and attack, they could be in trouble.Â They have to hold the fort defensively.
Enjoy the Game!
Some of the people here are ridiculous with the blind Marucs love. I really like the guy, I have his jersey and his autograph. But for the love of God realize he's not playing well and that last season is meaningless for the most part, especially since we have a new coach.
Did you guys see that? Some Warriors fan bought a gris gris doll into the Hive? I hope his tires blow out tonight. No injury. I hope they blow out though and he has to buy a whole new set. LOL.
We have what it takes to win, however the timing and management needs to be re-evaluated by Monty. He does the same thing everysingle freakin game and its so predictable. Why in shits name does he take out all the starters and stop our momentum against a team that keeps its hot streak starter Monta Ellis in? Why u ask? Ill tell you why, because "he wants to give CP and Dwest rest... Wtf! These guys don't need the same amount of rest every freaking night! Every single time he takes out the starters in the beginning of the fourth I cringe to think that if we are leading the lead will be cut. If you guys all follow the Hornets like I know you do you will remember 1 game this season where he put the starters back in at 10:30 remaining mark... Can you name that game and did we win?
i've been saying this for awhile but monty is pretty much BScott 2.0. He plays pretty much his favorites and that's it, relies too heavily on the bench when they aren't getting it done, runs basically the same offense, and generally never seems to get in his players or the refs faces when calls aren't going their way. the only positives i have to say about monty are that he has given the team a defensive identity somewhat, and he doesn't overplay cp3 and dwest (although he can be accused of underplaying them as well). so pretty much the hornets fired byron for a clone of him.
i'm tired of defending Monty. and since i read in "stumbling on wins" that finding a transcendental coach is rare, just as much as a superstar is. We might as well fire Monty and hire another Assistant Coach from another team, and it won't make a difference.
yeah. i give props to Monty for trusting our bench. I discredit him for not recognizing that our bench is not responding. I hate our bench right now for being so atrocious. Can't believe it, i went to school with NO up 10, i said to myself "this looks like a blow out. Cp3/dx will win this. BUT MY GOD.
I agree Max. It's that 4th quarter EVERY SINGLE TIME that is making me lose my mind. But I don't mind that he subs out the starters. What I mind is the goddamn second unit coming in thinking we have the game won and playing COMPLACENT. THATS RIDICULOUS. It makes the starters jobs soooo much harder when they come back in and have NO MOMENTUM.
the only thing i can take solace in is that the spurs lost and the jazz are down by double digits but knowing them they will come back to win. oh and hopefully ariza has learned how effective he can be when he cuts and drives to the hoop. oh yea turnovers also killed us tonight too!!!
Yeah, Warriors=horrible ball club. The "horrible" as in, the type of team that the Hornets always lose to.
talk about overreaction... we're what, less than half a season into his FIRST SEASON and people seem to think that he's a Popovich or someone special. People seem to forget that its his first year, and that he's a long way towards a coaching career that i believe will be good. again first year head coach everybody. let's talk about him getting fired if he doesn't improve next year.
Monty did nothing wrong. Wanna who did? The PATHETIC GROUP WE CALL A BENCH. We were up ten points to start the 4th and we end up going down by 10?!?!?!?!?! I just can't believe how time and time again our bench allows the opposing team to not only get back into the game, but to give them ALL THE RHYTHM!!! PLEASE DELL DEMPS. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP WAITING TIL THE DEADLINE. MAKE A MOVE NOW BEFORE I DESTROY THE MONITOR I GOT FOR CHRISTMAS WATCHING THIS GARBAGE!!! This is the angriest I've gotten watching a game all season.
And Licht needs to stop talking about how the Hornets are the best defensive team in the West. They need to play like it. And when they do, the refs intervene. I hope a charlie horse keeps those refs up all night.
Terrible closing performance, what else is new..... Green shouldnt be the one taking the final shots, Dwest and CP3 two man game down the stretch, that should never change. I'm not one to blame it on refs, but they just screwed Mek over, if that was me I would've had a double tech, we need him against teams like GS.
i will put this loss on monty and the refs. refs screwd us over but we have a coach who sat there and watched a 14-0 run, heres a novel idea.... call a timeout
seems like the majority of the hornets losses from close games have resulted from not guarding the 3 and missing loads of FTs. so far this has been the most frustrating season for me to watch the hornets, they look great and then the next game they look like crap. plus you add in we usually get shafted by the refs and the ownership situation, i just hope like everyone else everything starts clicking and the season will end on a high note.
Monty has his favorites. If MT5 makes the same mistakes Willie makes, he gets pulled out the game. I just dont understand why hes not consistent with everyone. For example, tonight there was a play either the 3rd or 4th, GSW missed a shot and Willie allowed an offensive rebound, not only that but he fouls the guy for an And 1. He also was ineffective guarding Monta Ellis. Then after that tough come back thanks to Ariza, guess who starts jacking up forced shots (including a long 3)? Willie Green...cost us the game IMO. If MT5 does any of those things hes out the game. Willie however gets special privileges and thats what I cant stand.
Looks like Coach Monty's favorite player can get all the credit for this loss. Thanks for trying to be a hero in the 4th Willie Green. By the way...you suck. lol