Game On: Hornets @ Jazz

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Published: November 24, 2010

According to Hornets fans, the sky is falling after Monday night’s loss to the Clippers, but regardless of the impending doom, New Orleans still has a game to play tonight against the Jazz. It wasn’t just Monday’s loss that has Hornets fans worried, as the Hornets were exposed in several areas during their wins last week against Cleveland and Sacramento as well. Despite the 11-2 record, it is apparent that the defense might not be the elite unit their stats portray them to be and the offense is limited in certain areas.

Despite all of that, a win tonight against Utah would go a long way towards solidifying the Hornets as an early season contender in the West. That is going to be easier said than down however as the Jazz have won 6 of the last 7 against New Orleans and generally owned the Hornets since both D Will and CP3 entered the league. While history does not always dictate the future, New Orleans has to be aware that it is Utah’s physicalness and tenacity that has killed them in the past and this Hornets team, more than any other, is built to combat those attributes.

For the first time since they entered the league, it can be argued that CP3 has the deeper and perhaps more talented supporting cast. While Paul Milsap has been a revelation for Utah, Al Jefferson has disappointed so far and Raja Bell and AK47 are on the backside of their careers. CJ Miles is talented, but extremely inconsistent and it would be kind if I were to call the rest of the bench average.

Of course Jerry Sloan still mans the bench and because of that you know that Utah will get the most out of each and every one of its players. Also, you know that this Utah team will never give up, as is evidenced by their five 15+ point second half comebacks already this season.

After Monday’s loss, CP3 was quoted as stating “They say winning cures all. But hopefully, with this loss, we’ll get back to paying attention to what we’ve got to do as a unit defensively.” For Hornets fans ready to press the panic button, let’s just hope CP3 walks out of Utah tonight with that Winning Cure All.

What the Hornets need to do on Offense:

Despite Al Jefferson’s impressive career numbers and Paul Milsap’s breakout season, neither player is known to have a reputation as even an average individual defender. Looking beyond the two starters, the Jazz have Kyrylo Fesenko and Francisco Elson as their backup bigs and neither of those players strike fear into the heart of fellow NBA players. With David West catching fire as of late, averaging 24 PPG over his last three, he will undoubtably be the focal point of the offense tonight. Utah’s best matchup for West, in fact, might be AK47 because his quickness and length could give West problems on the perimeter. However, in those situations where he is on West, expect the Hornets to get the ball to West down low where he can use his strength.

West shouldn’t be the only Hornet who benefits from Utah’s lack of a defensive presence in the interior, as Belinelli and Ariza have proven to be fairly efficient when attacking the rim so far this season. In addition, CP3 should be able to get into the paint and draw defenders, while Willie Green can attack the defense from the wings and corners.

Where Utah has really been exposed, however, is on the boards as their defensive rebounding rate is only 62.74%, which is among the worst in the league. That means that of every five missed shots by an opposing team, Utah only manages to grab a little over 3 of them. While the Hornets are not a good offensive rebounding team, Okafor has been great this year and keeping possessions alive and the combo of West and Jason Smith have been active, averaging nearly 4 offensive rebounds per game combined.

The danger that the Hornets face is relying too much on the inside game and/or David West on isolation plays. While it is tempting to continually pound Utah’s weakness, it limits the involvement that other players have on the game, which is why Utah has been so effective in shutting teams down in the second half. Utah sets a trap where they let you have certain things early, and then when they take them away from you, then you are forced to choose between two options: Be stubborn and keep pounding away against double teams or Give the ball up to cold shooters who weren’t previously involved. It’s quite a brilliant strategy for an undermanned team to be honest, but the Hornets can not fall for Utah’s Rope-A-Dope. They must vary their offense, attack the rim, and keep everyone involved.

What the Hornets Must do on Defense:

It has been no secret that in years past that the Utah Jazz simply outworked and outhustled the Hornets on both ends of the court. They came off the bench with guys like Matt Harpring and Paul Milsap, who just pounded an already tired Hornets team into submission. Their quality of depth was evident and Jerry Sloan’s system allowed the Jazz to slowly pick apart the Hornets to the point where most games weren’t even in reach by the 4th quarter.

The Jazz have lost some of that depth and toughness, with guys like Ronnie Brewer and Matt Harpring leaving town and Paul Milsap forced to become a starter due to the departure of Carlos Boozer. Combine that with Okur’s injury and the addition of Al Jefferson, and the new look Jazz are more of a finesse team that relies on simply outscoring the opposition on any given night.

They still are fairly provicient on the offensive galss, which is surprising considering how poor they are on the defensive glass, but guys like Paul Milsap and Al Jefferson pull down their share of offensive rebounds. Where the Jazz seem to live and die this year is at the three-point line. When they are hitting, they can go off for 120+ points, but when guys like CJ Miles can’t find his stroke, they are an average offensive team at best.

On the season the Jazz are shooting 34% from behind the arc, but in their losses they are shooting under 25% from deep, while they are shooting over 40% in their wins. Guys like CJ Miles and RajaBell have the ability to light it up from three or have terrible shooting nights, and the Hornets defense has to do its best to make sure tonight is the latter.

Of course the Hornets number one focus has to be to stop Utah’s formidable pick and roll combo of Deron Williams and Paul Milsap. In a lot of ways it will be like looking in a mirror for CP3 and David West, with a few slight exceptions. Although Milsap does pop on occassion, he is more likely to roll to the basket than West and Deron is more likely to shoot the ball if defenders go under than Paul. Okafor has to be a presence in the middle and Ariza has to do a much better job of rebounding and boxing out on the weak side if the Hornets are going to walk out of Utah tonight with a win.

Vegas Zone

The Hornets come into the game as underdogs for only the second time in the last eight games, as the Jazz are 4 point favorites at home. Gamblers seem to agree with Vegas as 73% of those voting on the money line are picking Utahdespite the Hornets being +155. When you factor in the spread, however, 79% of gamblers are taking the Hornets +4, so expect that line to move to 3 or 3.5 by game time.

The over/under is 193 and a slight majority is taking the under. I am 1-3 so far this year, so odds say I am due to nail one of these. I will take Utah minus 4 and the under. Sorry to say it Hornets fans (and I am praying I am wrong), but I got Utah 97 Hornets 89.

NBA 2K11 Sim

In retrospect, perhaps I should have posted the 2K sim for the Clippers game since LA did in fact win the match up on Monday night. At the time it seemed more improbable than The Miz winning the WWE Championship, but both happened in a two hour span, so what do I know.

So, here is the sim for tonight’s game. If it goes anything like it does in the sim, then we are sure to be entertained, but might be cranky when we are with our families tomorrow afternoon due to a lack of sleep and the frustration of another close loss.


189 Comments

  1. MaskedTalent

    November 24, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Hopefully my boys will show up tonight and play fullheartedly! HORNETS STILL THE BEST! LETS GO! TIME TO TAKEOVER!

  2. thekeymaster

    November 24, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    I consider this a must win for the Hornets, I think most Hornets fans know why…

  3. Bug Marley

    November 24, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Blowout win.

    • MaskedTalent

      November 24, 2010 at 3:25 pm

      a blowout win would be nice but…it isnt likely. I WISH but…we wont get any blowouts just yet…because if we were going to, it would have or should have happen against the clippers or kings…but…we dont show up like the championship team we are. we only scored 75 on the kings…we can win no doubt…but a blowout isnt gonna happen yet…even though we should be fully capable of doing it.

  4. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    With focused play for 48 minutes, we’re suited to win this. Nevertheless, Utah is always a tough place to play for any team. The Hornets have done a good job at letting teams come back from double-digit deficits, and the Jazz are great at doing that. SO NO SETBACKS! STAY TOUGH!

  5. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    I don’t know why people are panicking..I guess it’s because we’re not use to seeing This team lose..But we’re only struggling because CP is struggling..And I know we All have faith in him

  6. Russell Kanning

    November 24, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    interesting preview
    I am afraid our Jazz team will have to beat you guys tonight. 🙂

  7. TopherPrice

    November 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Why must all super-villains of the 60’s and 70’s tell their weaknesses or plans to the hero? Did they not have plot devices in those years, or were all the writers too high to worry about just bashing people about the head with the story?

    Oh well, onto the game. We should win if we have a plan for the zone. If not, come the third quarter, Grand Papa Sloan will whip that bad boy out on the Hornets like Tony Montana does a M16 w/M203 grenade launcher.

    That is all, Back to Call of Duty Black Ops. LOL

  8. NOEngineer

    November 24, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    For the first time I can remember, we are getting a day of rest prior to the Utah game. Every other time we were traveling from LA or Portland after playing a really tough game the night before. That ought to help the Hornets.

    I hope we activate Aaron Gray soon to combat the physical play. Let’s go BIG!

  9. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    The Hornets need to REBOUND. REBOUND AND STICK TO YOUR DEFENSE. Don’t just talk about hanging your hats on defense, do it. The Jazz fans have been complaining about their team not rebounding. Well if they aren’t going to rebound the Hornets need to capitalize on it. And yeah, Gray may need to be activated in case the Jazz decide to play Fesenko. Hornets will need to do something to combat Fesenko’s size.

  10. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    GEAUX HORNETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    3>8

  12. ChrisTrewdotCom

    November 24, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Shame on me for taking this long to watch, but I can’t believe I just got a WWE Spoiler from Hornets247.

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 5:37 pm

      Yeah, Chris, I’m one PPV behind . . . just did Bragging Rights. I knew it was coming, the win, but not win.

      Same boat as you, my friend. I hope to do Survivior Series this Sunday, taking advantage of what is apparently being called Saintsgiving.

      It’s not for nothing, by the way. Michael made a very apt APA reference the other nice. Good times.

      Also, don’t be a stranger when you come to town, if for no other reason I’m likely able to hand you free tickets: one for you, one for Boss Coyote.

      • Michael McNamara

        November 24, 2010 at 7:53 pm

        Sorry guys- I didn’t spoil the PPV, I promise. Just the Raw afterward, but it was obvious.

        My bad- I forgot that people fall behind on their soaps… err I mean wrestling.

      • 42

        November 24, 2010 at 9:56 pm

        No problem, it happens.

        I’m the bad person here, not you.

      • ChrisTrewdotCom

        November 25, 2010 at 4:37 pm

        Oh no, I am confused! Reveal yourself!

      • 42

        November 25, 2010 at 5:24 pm

        Ha. This is fun.

        I saw you do more improv at Le Chat than any other person not in the troupes.

        Think “Math” . . . .

      • ChrisTrewdotCom

        November 25, 2010 at 5:50 pm

        I thought it was you! Also hoping it was you! Still the same phone number? Counting the days til I’m a season ticket holder myself!

      • 42

        November 25, 2010 at 6:01 pm

        Yup. I lost all my contacts in an update-gone-wrong. Ball’s in your court.

  13. BeesGivingEffort

    November 24, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    TNA > WWE by a mile.
    Oh and sorry about you going 1-4 and losing more money MM.

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 7:17 pm

      I used to keep up some, but now it’s just too hard. WCW all over, same folks, same mistakes.

      • Hornet

        November 24, 2010 at 7:19 pm

        TNA hasn’t been good since 2006 and right before Hogan got there. Since Hogan and Bischoff showed up it’s a mess and I gave up on it a while ago.

      • BeesGivingEffort

        November 24, 2010 at 7:37 pm

        Yep, too bad WWE is full of kiddy storylines and uses a development process that is beyond control. How many months of Nexus do we have to endure? They have barely wrestled in at least 4+ months of watching them cheat in every important match. WWE is predictable and the “Attitude Era” officially ended with the departure of Michaels, HHH, and Batista. Sorry, but TNA is the closest you will get to adult entertainment in the wrestling world and their tag team wrestling is light years beyond the WWE. Sorry, but WWE is the brand name and that doesn’t justify how Vince McMahon sold out his fan base in order for even more money from the 10 and under bracket (and their parents obviously). His greed has severely watered down his product.

        I do agree, however, that TNA is making the same exact mistake that WCW did and they don’t even have the charismatic Wolfpack to keep things interesting at the moment. Regardless, it is still world’s beyond where the WWE currently sits.

      • Hornet

        November 24, 2010 at 7:50 pm

        Honestly for whatever reason, ever since HBK retired WWE has gotten a lot worse from what I saw. Don’t know how much influence he had backstage but it’s just not the same quality; too kiddy and goofy. I stopped watching after Danielson (Bryan Daniel) got fired and stuck with MMA.

      • 42

        November 24, 2010 at 9:55 pm

        He’s back. He got in trouble for improving something that a little too `Benoit’ on camera . . .

        The reliable insiders said they were knowing entering a phase of character development and expected problems that would last about a year . . . a year and a half ago. All the criticism is valid, I just don’t respect most of what TNA does. Most. I go see them live when they come to town (BR usually). Their high end is quite high, after all, and they actually treat their ladies better. The low end, however . . . is just abysmal, pun intended.

  14. Okijeff

    November 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    I am watching the other Hornets team right now. Lol! The Raptors.

  15. JCS

    November 24, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    I can’t find this one on my DirecTV, but anyway I’m going to church w/friends. Among many things, I’ll be praying for a righteous beatdown of the Jazz and all their Satanic worshiping fans.

    Cheers

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 9:50 pm

      Assuming you mean Satan worshiping instead of Satanic worshiping and that you are referring to Mormons: Cease with the hatespeak. There is no need to denigrate an entire group of people in a way that does nothing but expose that you know little to no real information about them.

      Some info for those who do not know but care to know:

      2% of the US citizens are Mormon, and a bit over half of Utah is. So many natural Jazz fans are Christians.

      Moreover, the largest group is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. See, they like Jesus.

      They respect the divinity of Jesus Christ and accept the many books of the Christian Bible as holy books that are central to their faith, adding to them the Book of Mormon as a third testament. Not all Christians agree on which books of the Bible, or which translations, have Bible membership. The is largely dependent upon the sect, with Catholics differing from most protestants.

      Mormons do not worship Satan.

      For some light, unbiased info to start anyone interest off: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon

      I shudder to think what informed fans would think of this blog if this comment went unchecked.

      Can’t we just call the team ugly and make fun of Deron’s beard and his weird hair bump like civilized fans?

      Some Disclosure: I am not a Mormon.

      • Bruce

        November 24, 2010 at 11:05 pm

        As a Jazz fan I think Williams neck beard should be given preference…

      • 42

        November 24, 2010 at 11:28 pm

        Ha!

        Good man!

  16. nbanerd

    November 24, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    This a real test for the Hornets tonight. I’m interested to see who Monty puts on D Will and hope its Bellinelli so we can see if his defense is for real. Utah’s a tough team and really tough to play in their own building. Hopefully we come out a little hungrier than the previous two games against the Kings and Clippers, that last a loss to a bad team, with a star rookie in Griffin, but not much as far as the team concept goes. With that said, CP knows what time it is and will be ready since he’s buddies with Deron. Let’s go Hornets!

  17. James Online

    November 24, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Offense and defense require excellent TEAM execution. That’ what we should be looking for. The interior defense in particular has to toughen. When the Clippers can pummel us inside, we need work.

  18. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Marcus Banks will not be a Hornet and David Andersen has been detained for Visa problems…

    http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2010/11/newly_acquired_g_marcus_banks.html

    • Hornet

      November 24, 2010 at 8:12 pm

      I read about Banks. Why would we release him if we could’ve used him as a small trade chip? Or does getting the 9.7 TPE make him useless?

      • JaeAmazin

        November 24, 2010 at 8:40 pm

        Let’s go Thornton!

    • peronas

      November 24, 2010 at 8:14 pm

      Interesting news… anyone know the inactive list for tonight? Curious if they activated Gray or not.

      • QueenBee

        November 24, 2010 at 8:22 pm

        “#hornets inactives tonight are Andersen, Banks, and Mensah-Bonsu”

      • peronas

        November 24, 2010 at 8:26 pm

        Thanks!

  19. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Belinelli needs to knock down those wide open looks.

  20. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Stay on Millsap.

  21. Jake

    November 24, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    I’d like to see everyone’s opinion on West playing in the paint. His jumper is so effective especially with the pick and pop it bugs me when he abandons it to try and play the post.

  22. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Both offenses are clicking right now.

  23. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Come on Emeka.

  24. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Is Al Jefferson going to Deron Williams’ barber?

    Ha! Tech on Bell. I was just getting ready to post keep an eye on Raja Bell.

  25. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Come on Hornets. You’ve got to want that rebound. What does Gerry V say? The game is won when the ball is in the air.

    Offensive foul on Emeka. Is he the only Hornet that hasn’t thawed out yet? LOL.

  26. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Why did ariza avoid the contact on that if he would have gone straight up he likely could have gotten to the line

  27. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Listen at the fans. Trying to sway the refs already. LOL.

  28. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Wow, not sure if it’s the camera angle but looked like green could have easily hit Ariza on the break

  29. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Quincy gets some PT.

  30. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Come on Mbenga.

  31. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    OMG! Here comes Gray! LOL.

  32. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    GRAY MONSTER!

  33. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Gray gets some PT too.

  34. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Nice shot Willie. That ball tried it’s best to come out. LOL.

  35. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    AG!!

  36. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    I would like to see Marcus Thorton come off the bench and do like Devin Brown did. Drop 30. LOL.

  37. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    They done let these asses take the one point lead to end the 1st.

  38. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    This is not college Quincy

  39. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    It would be nice if our starting center joined the team in a positive way tonight.

    • peronas

      November 24, 2010 at 8:44 pm

      Agree he wrapped up his head…

  40. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Our offense has seemed to pick up some this game gotta lock down more on D giving up 31 in a quarter is not ideal…

  41. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Offensive foul on Quincy.

  42. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Thornton checking in.

  43. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    I’ve been telling people Utah’s defense is better when Deron is on the bench. We’re seeing it already in the beginning of this 2nd quarter.

    And the Hornets currently have 8PFs compared to Utah’s 4.

  44. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    ****!

  45. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Hornets have been stuck on 30. Great.

  46. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    According to Utah broadcast we have Pargo on the court….

  47. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    lol on Utah’s on the floor list for the Hornets they listed Pargo.

    Bench’s defense has sucked.

  48. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    That should be a flagrant on Fesenko but I’ll bet they won’t give him one.

    • peronas

      November 24, 2010 at 8:45 pm

      Agreed he wrapped up his head

  49. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    What are they booing for

  50. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    What the eff are the fans booing for? Dumb asses.

  51. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Fesenko you’re a b*tch

  52. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    And now Thornton called with an offensive foul. Don’t try to do too much Buckets. Settle down.

  53. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Hornets down 10 now. Timeout.

  54. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Utah is making everything..this won’t last all game

  55. pinoyballah

    November 24, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    i dont understand why green brings the ball up… i thought thats why we got jack.

  56. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Bench can’t play defense at all. Slow as hell.

  57. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Paul, Jack, Belinelli, Smith and Gray on the court.

  58. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Every time the whistle blows it’s against the Hornets.

  59. da_freshness

    November 24, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Some of these Fouls are bad Calls…..

  60. BeesGivingEffort

    November 24, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Well, at least we can say Marcus isn’t avoiding contact. These Jazz fans are annoying.

  61. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    And just as I say that they call an offensive foul on Miles.

  62. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Hornets are giving up too many 3’s already.

  63. BeesGivingEffort

    November 24, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Chris is not rotating on D and is blaming everyone else around him.

  64. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Anyone ever see that episode of Martin when Martin has a boxing match with Tommy Hearns? Remember how Martin’s head ended up? That’s how Earl Watson’s head looks. LMAO.

    • Forever504

      November 24, 2010 at 8:56 pm

      BWAHAHAH LMFAO >>>>>>>>>DEAD

      • QueenBee

        November 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm

        ROFLMAO! You must know what I’m talking about Forever504!!

      • Forever504

        November 24, 2010 at 9:17 pm

        that episode came on tv one like 3 night ago

  65. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Aww come on Belinelli! If you’re going to steal the ball, steal it. Dumb foul.

  66. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    So is that 3 fouls on Emeka now?

  67. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Mek is too strong for his own good

  68. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    wow Mek

  69. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Offense is getting stagnant

  70. thekeymaster

    November 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    these refs suck, anytime the jazz get touched in the paint its a foul. with that said the hornets D has sucked just as equally

  71. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    i want to kick all on-court players in the balls.

  72. Nik

    November 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    not a very hot performance right now.. what is going on? too many fouls and too many sloppy plays fml

  73. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    51 points with 5 minutes to go for the half. great

  74. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I’m surprised they called that Kirilenko over the back.

  75. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Hornets need to play like they want to win. I can go finish cooking my dinner if they are going to suck tonight.

    Tell those fans to st*u. LOL.

  76. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Shut the hell up Licht. He’s mentioning how no one has missed a ft yet.

  77. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Yea it seems like every night we’re playing the refs….But it’s cool..Treys Belinelli!!

  78. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Thanks for making that Marco!

  79. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Am I seeing CP get into the paint? I thought he wasn’t doing that this season.

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 10:10 pm

      Now it’s all he does . . . right?

  80. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Late ass whistle for Mbenga but I’m glad they called it. Refs need to stop being scared of Utah fans.

    Yeah first miss Licht. Cuz you jinxed us clown.

  81. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Are our centers Afraid of heights??..Just asking cause these idiots never DUNK the damn Ball

    • QueenBee

      November 24, 2010 at 9:11 pm

      Emeka will dunk it but he can’t seem to stay on the floor tonight. Hornets bigs need to have it on their mind to jam that damn ball. To hell with finesse.

  82. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Now Beli misses a ft. Thanks Licht.

  83. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Shot clock violation on Jazz. LET’S GEAUX HORNETS!!!!!!

  84. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    You can’t give Deron Williams that much room. I mean come on now.

  85. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Williams vs Paul is beautiful to watch. I want Paul to be even more aggressive 2nd half. He’s too quick for Deron.

  86. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Well, as Mr. McNamara pointed out in the pre-game, the Jazz can put up 120+ when they have it going. Tonight seems to be a night when they have it going…

    • QueenBee

      November 24, 2010 at 9:18 pm

      Hopefully it’ll leave them in the 2nd half. LOL! Probably not though.

  87. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    We are in dire need of a 3rd scorer

    • QueenBee

      November 24, 2010 at 9:24 pm

      That could/should be Thornton.

  88. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Aside from our defensive slippage the last couple of games it seems our bench has finally come back down to earth. Smith and Greene are no longer burying shots at the ridiculous rate they were early, meanwhile Jack’s still getting oriented. The all around defense for the second unit seems to be a step slow and a little on the lax side.

    I think we are seeing a bigger fall off these last set of games when our bench comes in than we were early in the season, and thats getting us into some trouble. Hopefully once Jack settles in, some structure can come to the second unit, cause right now they seem a bit scattered and everyone’s trying to make something happen.

  89. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Hornets need to knock down shots. Get to the rim. Play defense. Rebound. Want it.

  90. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    I’d love it if AK kept this up… eating up the Jazz’s possessions and blowing it mightily.

    • QueenBee

      November 24, 2010 at 9:33 pm

      No kidding.

  91. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    When Chris drops it off to West he’s in a position to just shoot it. But he waits for a man to quickly close out on him. That will most times always end up in a miss.

  92. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    That is bull.

  93. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    AND 1!!! Please Trevor, make your ft dude.

  94. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    That would have been big if marco could have connected on that.

  95. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    I forgot I’m behind on my DVR. LOL! Let me catch up.

  96. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Leaving points at the line. SMH.

  97. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    C’mon West

  98. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    That’s not working Emeka. Can Emeka post up to get deeper in there?

  99. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Apparently the Jazz have an official chaplain. BAHAHAHA

  100. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    I don’t normally root for OKC but I did tonight and they let me down. SMH.

  101. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Dumb, dumb turnover.

  102. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Ariza’s letting me down…

  103. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    We really look terrible.

  104. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    3 FREE THROWS? ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME? HE WASN’T EVEN SHOOTING

    • Dmon3k

      November 24, 2010 at 9:48 pm

      That’s home cooking right there, so uncool

  105. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    I’m sorry but that’s a terrible call to give him 3 shots

    • JLImagine

      November 24, 2010 at 9:46 pm

      Seriously, how is that in the act of shooting? Terrible officiating tonight.

  106. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Those refs know damn well Deron wasn’t shooting. LOL.

    Ariza should look to do that all damn night.

  107. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Terrible terrible defense

  108. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. As soon as Licht said CP didn’t have any turnovers, he gets bumped alongside the baseline and to avoid going out of bounds with the ball, he tries to pass it and turns it over. That’s another reason I like to keep my tv on mute. LOL.

  109. JLImagine

    November 24, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Wow, we really struggle with this team. Playing pretty sloppy tonight. Too many dumb turnovers, poor shot selection, and shotty defense. With that said the Jazz are playing amazing. Smart of them to add Jefferson after losing Boozer?

  110. thekeymaster

    November 24, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    later y’all after that 3 ft play i’m done with this game, team is playing like spit and the refs are only making it worse. at to that i hate the jazz more than any other team. have a good night and happy thanksgiving

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 10:21 pm

      I hate Dallas.

  111. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Where’s the defense? For a team that prides itself on defense, the past 2 games ours has looked awful.

  112. DownUnder

    November 24, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Thats how u beat Utah, Rebounding!

  113. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Hornets never win in Utah. When Devin Brown dropped 30 in there that was an anomaly. LOL. I’m going cook.

  114. Forever504

    November 24, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    whats with all the 3s ariza

  115. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    I think everyone should start dogging Smith again like the very beginning of the season. Set a fire under him again… Hey it worked last time…

  116. da_freshness

    November 24, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Marcus’s Defense looks impoved.

    • da_freshness

      November 24, 2010 at 10:03 pm

      *improved

  117. JaeAmazin

    November 24, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Let’s go 2nd Unit!!

  118. MaxALM

    November 24, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    WE NEED ANOTHER BIG MAN

  119. Forever504

    November 24, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    the bench looks like they have never played together before

  120. tyler

    November 24, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Sorry to say this but the HORNETS BENCH SUCKS!!!

  121. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Marcus Thornton is TRASH! Missing Shots … got broke off by Deron Williams.

    Is their any more discussion as to why he does not play?

    L_Reazy

    • Forever504

      November 24, 2010 at 10:10 pm

      they ALL missed shots and even chris cant shut deron down

    • peronas

      November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

      It’s not like Williams is some scrub he’s crossed up plenty of guys with that crossover

  122. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    I miss Tyson. A lot.

    • QueenBee

      November 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      We didn’t beat the Jazz when Tyson was here either. LOL!!

  123. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Just checking in and see Emeka getting his ish knocked away because he’s going up so effing weak. Still not missing anything. Let me go finish my stuffing. LOL.

  124. tyler

    November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    if the starters was still in in the second quarter we would of been up

  125. Dmon3k

    November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    I miss Dwest. A lot. Oh wait he’s still on the team… and playing tonight?

  126. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Our BIGS never do well against Utah man! It’s starting to really piss me off. Maybe David West is part of the problem. How many rebounds does he have? 5?
    Get tough … DAMN!!!

    L_Reazy

  127. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Oh and every team in the SW division gets a W tonight except the Hornets. So sad. SMH.

  128. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    You need to play man to man defense against the Jazz. Look how much contact West had to endure before they blew that whistle. GTFO. Happy Thanksgiving Hornets fans. Talk to you all on Friday.

  129. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Wests gotta stop bringing the ball so low with as much help as they are bringing

  130. dhfdjuf

    November 24, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    The hornets just staright up got they’re asses handed to them

  131. peronas

    November 24, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    And I’m done with this game…

  132. Hornet

    November 24, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    I turned off my stream. This is embarrassing. Happy Thanksgiving Hornets fans. Good night.

  133. hewhorocks

    November 24, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Just not pretty tonight.

  134. tyler

    November 24, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Well I can’t watch anymore

  135. Nik

    November 24, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    not watchin anymore… the sky IS falling

  136. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Yeah, Chris Paul is getting tired of losing to these kind of teams … this is frustrating … it’s only a matter of time before he ….. !

    It’s not about the good record … he wants to beat these elite teams!

    …so we got the Blazers, Spurs, & Thunder next … it was fun while it lasted. I hope I am wrong. 11-3 and counting … Ws or Ls?

    L_Reazy

  137. Go blue

    November 24, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    I don’t get why Willie was/is still handling the ball. Give the ball to Jack, darn it.
    Ever since the bench fell behind in the 2nd quarter, we couldn’t catch back up. Is it really that hard to catch a pass and shot the ball? Honestly, why should CP3 have to work so hard to find them open shots, just for them to dribble into a defender and throw up a ridiculous shot? -_-

    Side note: Trevor did a pretty good job defending (AK47 was 0-6).

  138. Forever504

    November 24, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    its just 3 Ls just look at some of the teams we have already beaten. It was just a BAD night for everybody

  139. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    One more thing … please stop hyping up Marcus Thornton … PLEASE! If he was going to prove something he would have done it against the Clippers and Jazz … I’m done waiting for this dude.

    The team is struggling for points … which means … perfect time for him to take over like last year … am I right about that? That’s what I keep reading right? If we’re struggling for points how come Monty doesn’t put ‘Buckets’ in? Trade this dude ASAP … Please Dell! I’m frustrated!

    L_Reazy

    • Forever504

      November 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      he didnt play against the clippers

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      L_Reazy: When you say please stop, it frustrates me just the same as when other folks claim that Marcus would have magically sunk some important, momentum-swinging bucket.

      Point to things; it will help. Offensive fouls. You could point to him zigging when Green thought he was zagging, but that could be a function of limited minutes and not a lack of ability+brains.

      He had a couple of nice hustle plays: trying to scoop up a loose ball, saving a bounding-out-of-bounds-ball. He also got to the line.

      He did seem like he may have been hogging the ball.

      Byron said championship teams don’t lose 3 in a row. Right or wrong, let’s follow Byron’s lead on this one . . . .

  140. 42

    November 24, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    I’m not terribly worried. Not only do these things happen inevitably, but we’ve got new bench pieces we’re working in. It’s also our worst road trip of the season.

    I’m not happy, but I don’t see this as a predictor of how we’ll do in most games.

    I hesitate to say we don’t match up will since we’ve turned the team over since our last game against them, but I tell you their assist total is what is jumping out at me.

    Gray seemed to be about the same: a third stringer.

    Marcus’ D seemed to be improved, as noted above, but those turnover via foul were killer. At least the dude his getting time. I’m behind you, buddy.

  141. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    I’ll play Devil’s Advocate:

    The Mavs, Kings, Clippers, and Jazz exposed something significant about the Hornets. Even though we play lockdown defense at times we still lack toughness inside yawl. Its sad but true!

    Get Samuel Dalembert!

    L_Reazy

    • Go Blue

      November 24, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Agree. Okafor has more good games than bad, but we really need a back-up center with some toughness!!!

      • JCS

        November 24, 2010 at 11:50 pm

        Agreed. Aaron Gray’s numbers are a joke.

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 10:44 pm

      It’s true. You got it. We’ll get there. We don’t have to be there now, right? We just can’t slam the door on the playoffs while we are getting right.

  142. QueenBee

    November 24, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Just heared Gil said against a system like Utah the Hornets have to do a much better job defensively. I agree with that.

    As for Marcus, he’s a shooter. Shooters are streaky. He has to find a rhythm. I would imagine that is hard to do when your PT is also streaky. He can get to the rim but tonight he appeared to be trying to do too much. I think he ended up with at least 2 offensive fouls. He probably wants to make so sure he plays well, that he’s messing up.

    I agree with peronas. West has to stop bringing the ball so low when they’re coming at him like that. All they want to do is slap and hack the ball away from you. And they succeed at that. If we were slapping and hacking, the whistles would be blown out of the building and into the slushy snow.

    I should’ve figured that all of these articles on how happy CP3 is would jinx us. Now we’re losing.

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 10:50 pm

      Pish-posh, pish posh.

      The Heat lost tonight, which means no losses count tonight, right?

  143. L_Reazy

    November 24, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    ’42’ … we are a playoff team. I know that. I felt that way even when we were 1-7 in the preseason. I want more though, and we can get more than just playoffs if we get rid of a few loose ends.

    David West, Thornton, Green, J. Smith, Okafor, Ariza, and Belinelli made Chris Paul look like the 2nd best PG in the NBA tonight. Deron William’s team is just better … so it’s easy for him to rack up assist and have a good game. The league doesn’t see it that way. They believe Williams is better by way of stats.

    I’m not suggesting we get rid of all of the names that I mentioned, but they have to be ‘MONSTERS’ when they play these Elite teams. I’m tired of people saying our record is a fluke … but … we proved them right tonight! I hate proving others right when I truly believe they aren’t. Chris Paul still has to work too damn hard against the Jazz, and maybe even the Lakers, Celtics, and Magic still!

    I’m frustrated because I see something in this team … they can go deep into the playoffs if they were a ‘wee-bit’ tougher. David West gets killed by tougher players all the time, and I’m tired of seeing that. I thought it would be different this year, but he is still soft … to a degree … and that degree is the Elite Teams!

    Maybe I’m overreacting about Marcus Thornton … but atleast stop calling him ‘Buckets’ … see, that’s just plain-old irritating … especially when he doesn’t hit any.

    L_Reazy

    • 42

      November 24, 2010 at 11:18 pm

      I think we’re on the same page about the team.

      There’s are a couple of threads in the forum you may enjoy that are focused on these issues. You may find them more satisfying since they are dedicated to a topic, so the discussion won’t be strewn throughout various game day threads here in the posts.

    • JCS

      November 24, 2010 at 11:56 pm

      Some girl who’s hot for Thorton came up with the Buckets nickname. Definitely wasn’t my first choice, and with the way he’s playing now, he wouldn’t be my third.

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