So you really believe there will be $50 million to spend, huh? That wasn't a joke the first time? Oh.
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Breaking News: Hornets Sell 45th Pick to Knicks
By: Joe Gerrity
Published: June 23, 2011
The speculation on who the Hornets would draft at number 45 has ended. Just after 10 pm central time Dell Demps came into the media room at the Hornets Headquarters and announced that the team would be selling the pick to the New York Knicks. The reaction wasn’t exactly enthusiastic, since we had been here over four hours waiting for some news.
Am I happy about it? Not really, but I doubt anything that happened with the 45th pick today was going to make me particularly thrilled. It would have been a lot of fun to talk about a new player, and get some cool interviews with him, but in the end it’s better that the Hornets use the money on players that they think will help them.
Dell didn’t think anyone available can help us as much as a few ducats can, and that’s a fairly reasonable assumption considering how weak the draft was this year. If money is what the team needs to take the next step, then this was the obvious decision. Ryan has repeatedly posted that the odds of getting a 6th man type player or better so late in the draft are only around 13%, and the fact that he Dell got such good value for such a late pick in a down NBA economy just makes the decision that much more defensible for both the Hornets and their fans.
I’m sure Dell has nothing personally against Josh Harrellson, but would just rather the team have 750,000 right now.
Talk it up in here or at HornetsReport.
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I for got to add (SF) James Jones Contract 4yr $18 Mill $4 Mil a year with the total in my previous post now totaled $27 Million for year one contracts of the re-signed,extened and signed free agents.The reason i added Glen Davis as a free agent to sign in case D West Opts out.
$49,552,945 to spend on some good talent. full Contract on the right and per year contract on the left (SG) Arron Affalo 5yr $25 Mil $5,000,000 (PF) Glen Davis 5yr $ 25 Mil $5,000,000 (PF) Carl Landry 4yr $ 18 Mil $4,000,000 (C) Arron Gray 3yr $ 9 Mil $3,000,000 (SG) Marco Belinelli 3yr $9 Mill $3,000,000 (C) D.J MBenga 2yr $1.6 Mil $850,000 (SG) Delonte West 1yr $850,000 $850,000 (PG) Carlos Arroyo 1yr $750,000 $750,000 (PF) Juwan Howard 1yr $650,000 $ 650,000 $23,000,000 in year one salary for the players they would sign,re-sign and extended contracts.
Some of you are just plain idiotic! Right now the hornets roster consists of 5 players taking up around $42 mil. Hypothetically, let's say DWest opts in for his last year, AG exercises his player option and the team makes qualifying offers to Bellinelli and Jason Smith. The grand total is now at $50 mil with 9 roster spots filled. This leaves the team with around $20 mil to fill 6 roster spots which includes hopefully resigning Carl Landry for around 4-5 mil. We're SOL! We should be holding free agent mini-camps like other teams are doing to find some kind of diamond in the ruff. How are we supposed to find a shooting guard, back-up center and back-up small forward plus fill two more spots with $15mil????
Hey, Deebo. Write another sentence like your first one, and you are done. Everything else you wrote is fine. Please, don't write another sentence like your first one.
So you're saying the hornets are going to tank the season for a draft lottery pick you must really want CP3 gone
This team have $49,302,945 in the salary cap to spend you want to know how i got those figures because of trade exemptions,expired contracts and west opting out there you go.
That is absolutely false. And those trade ideas above are terrible. And if Quincy Pondexter is ever a rotation player, we'll have plenty to talk about come draft time, because it's back to the lottery we surely have went.
The optimist in me allows for a way to certainly find positives in trading out of the 45th pick, regardless of how much I would have enjoyed to anoint a fresh face as our next unsung gem. To begin, several of the players that were slated as being a potential selection with our pick went completely undrafted (Lighty, Bryan-Amaning, Hopson), which means that they were obviously not NBA talents in the scouters eyes, or they can be brought in later for a look in workouts and training camp. Realistically, the players that could have filled a bench role or be part of a back end rotation kind of flew of the boards right before the Hornets selection, which obviously altered the landscape of things very quickly. Although the $750,000 won't garner a great deal in free agency, and second rounders contracts are not guaranteed anyways, I still feel as if this move will be beneficial in some sense down the road for the Hornets. Demps made some great moves throughout the season that allowed for the team to remain competitive and I believe this slight bit of leverage will assist him this offseason. The sum of the parts is greater than the whole, so we must allow for the GM and Co. to really get the wheels spinning to find out whether this was a great move or error in judgement.
If West opts out we sign Glen Davis then Jamal Crawford maybe.Trade Okafor and Dave Andersen to the Pistons for Rip Hamiltion & some draft picks.Then sign Wilson Chandler,Samuel Dalembert,Leon Powe,Delonte West and J.J Barea or Earl Watson.Re-sign Gray,Mbenga,Landry and Green. C:Dalembert-Gray-Mbenga PF:Davis-Landry-Powe SF:Ariza-Chandler-Pondexter SG:Hamilton-Green-Delonte West PG:Paul-Jack-Watson I've another Idea Hornets-Cavs Trade Okafor for Varejao and Sessions.Then sign Glen Davis,Crawford,Dalembert,Chandler and Delonte West.Then re-sign Green,Gray,Jack,Landry,Mbenga and waive David Andersen C:Dalembert-Gray-Mbenga PF:Davis-Landry-Varejao SF:Ariza-Chandler-Pondexter SG:Crawford-Green-West PG:Paul-Sessions-Jack
Awwww man this offseason is gonna be scary and i meant that in a good way because i think our cap is like 70M (roughly) and with everyone coming off the books we have about 40M Spent (Including west and if he opts in then we have about 47M) we can go ahead and make some major moves and sign some major players man i cant wait for Dell to get started with this offseason and plus we even have trade exceptions too so man this should be a fun Offseason my fellow hornets fans
I'm alright with it. I'd have rather saw us draft Leslie from Georgia but the extra dinero aint bad too. We gonna need all the cash we can get if we want a decent free agent class
Really, the annoying part was watching the Travis Leslie highlight reel two picks later. My thinking is that Demps has been given a set amount of money and he just wanted to stockpile more. That is really our best case scenario here.
It's alright we didn't do much n the draft. Just think Quincy pondexter developing his handles and his shooting. He can be in the rotation. Nt to push blockbuster deals bt if we can get monta without giving up ariza, we have to get him. Try to sign Greg oden or Deandre Jordan to replace okafor. Also, Denver gt Jordan Hamilton. There is no way they can keep him afflalo jr wilson chandler and gallinarri. I wldnt be mad at getting Brandon Roy. Dnt think iguodala fits in a system with Chris paul. Michael beasley will hit the trade block. Too many names for the hornets to keep steady this offseason.
I really don't have much faith, going forward. Five players under contract, totaling $40 million. Four of them are very replaceable. West is more or less gone. The free agent "splash" that everybody expects isn't going to happen - it really can't happen. Nothing at all to look forward to.
Oh God. Now I know I'm not right. Ain't no way I could be on the same side as Fletch and think I'm right.
Oooohooo, Dell Demps is a money man. Look if the guys says that there was no one worth picking, then there was no one worth picking. This was a really bad draft class, producing only one potential superstar in Derrick Williams (Kyrie Irving just doesn't present anything really special to me), so to me it makes a lot of sense to save every dime we could. Harrellson is nothing special, he's probably going to be nothing more than a deep reserve or maybe never find his way onto the court. We're going to need every penny we can get if we want to make a push for next season, so picking a guy just to pick a guy seems like a waste. Dell knows what he's doing, and I apologize if you don't necessarily agree/
Tonight's draft is the least of our worries. If there's anything we should be worried about is that they introduce a new CBA that's favorable for small markets is and we get a local owner that wants to keep the team here so free agents will feel better about coming to play here. We're pouting because we didn't keep a late 2nd round pick and for all we know we may not even have a team in the next 2-3 years.
Josh Smith. Kinda redundant as he's kind of a mix of Landry and Ariza and Okafor. He'd probably be part of a sequence of moves, I hope. Bring in a 2 that can put ball in hoop with required amount of regularity and maybe yet another athletic big like Sean Williams to replace Mbeetaljuice.
It takes years to fully evaluate a draft pick. I say give this move the same consideration. Let's see what Demps does with the cash before we judge.
At first I thought we picked Harrellson for our roster and wasn't pleased. However, I'm okay with the pick being sold. I'd really, really like to take a look at David Lighty as an undrafted free agent. I've watched him for five years. The dude works his tail off. I also liked Jon Diebler from Ohio State. I figured he'd go undrafted and would fit great as a shooter.But Portland scooped him up. QueenBee. From what I know, here are our trade exemptions. Collison - 1.36M MoPete - 1.35M Peja - 6.65M Thorton - 762K JuJu - 2.58M I'd love a Josh Smith move. He can be so dumb on the court at times but he's one of my favorite players in the league to watch.
Thanks Hollis21. That's some nice trade exception money. Demps is the GM and I think he'll know what he's doing. We try to play armchair GM but I think he'll handle his business. That te money from Peja alone is really nice. Heehee! ;)
I asked about that and the answer is that the money will be used to make the team better.
That small amount of money won't make the team better. They had a draft choice who might have worked out in case Gray or Smith isn't back. Maybe the Hornets are trying to save some pennies in a desperate effort to keep David West. Strikes me as sad. West doesn't look like he wants to stay on and a few hundred thousand isn't going to make the difference.
Here is one way to obtain Josh Smith, if, the Hornets are really looking to make a play for him! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=63shjj5 Add this trade with Emeka for Iguadola, with the signing of Dalembert and Wilson Chandler ... ... might be interesting ... assuming Josh Smith is obtained with the departure of David West. F-Smith, F-Chandler, C-Dalembert, G-Iguadola, G-Paul L_REAZY
Within the next week we will hear what West decides. He'll probably opt out for more money but that doesn't mean he won't remain a Hornet. Demps has said he wants to keep both West and Landry. Hopefully whatever monies they have will allow them to keep both.
How many players do the Hornets have under contract right now? Do they still have trade exception money to use?
5 under contract right now? Wow. And the way some people are sounding as though that's all we'll go into the season with (if we even have a season). Moves will be made. They have to. I'm not upset with this move.
yeah i just looked at the trade exemption money. forgot about that. makes me feel a little better
Besides, like I said over at ATH, some Hornets fans want lottery and new bodies every single year. Well when Chris Paul IS gone, they'll have their chance at that happines every year.
Do we seriously think Chris Paul is counting on a player at #45 in this poo poo draft to help this team? I'll bet if they consulted CP and asked him if he'd rather they use the money to re-sign West and/or Landry or would he want the #45 pick, which would CP prefer?
Not loving this. Selling ANOTHER pick speaks to more than just a 45th pick. It suggests sameness, stagnation. Which is a surefire way to lose our two best players and then we're the damn gutter dwellers that everyone else already treats us like we are. I'm not losing hope, but it was a blow to my chops I thought wasn't coming. And now I'm all shook up.
Eman5805, This is the 45th pick in a very weak (historically) draft, a team that needs to win now, and a new front office. I don't see anything in common with the selling of our 2nd round draft pick (2 years ago?), except the odds against them making it in the NBA are very high.
Historically weak? How? It just friggin' happened. How could you or anyone possibly know how good this draft could be? I'm over any bad feelings about the draft, though I'll continue defending why I felt that way now that I see things more clearly, and it had NOTHING to do with Harrellson or any player we could've picked in the 2nd round.
How do you know our 2 best players don't want this? How do you know if whether or not CP would rather they sell the pick if it means using the money to sign another player that he'd prefer? And if you aren't losing hope it sure as heck sounds like you're just about there.
Nunu, we have 5 for sure players under contract right now. There will be signings. And I'm willing to bet they'll be better than a Harrellson signing. LOL.
But that offeseason your talking about will last about a week unless they come up with a new deal. If not we're looking at nothing happening till December Jan if this lockout drags out and all indications are pointing that way....
Just because they didn't do much on draft night doesn't mean they won't do anything all offseason long.
I don't. But I do know that not doing a thing but standing still won't cut it. And initial reaction was that this leans towards standing still. There's obviously a plan. I could discern that from watching Demps. So maybe its that I'm not having the best sequence of events. I'll relax, have a good night's sleep and be back to my old self tomorrow. See this all in a new light. But for right now. Bad taste is left in my mouth.
I heard Josh Smith's name mentioned in the interview. That's the third time I've heard 'Hornets' & 'Josh Smith' mentioned together in the last two days. Personally, I'd like a move done before the July 1st Lockout begins. Maybe this will be 'Domino #1'! L_REAZY
Josh Smith was mentioned by Tom Haberstroh of ESPN as a possible fit for New Orleans, but I don't think that's based on anything other than speculation. In the Q and A with Dell, John Deshazier meant Jason Smith, but he said Josh Smith. It was a long night.
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