As a Blazer fan, this is really awesome to see. I really liked Monty when he was here and it's good to see he's doing your team right. See ya later this week!
The Hornets beat the Bucks. Six and Oh, baby!
The vaunted Bucks defense showed up tonight and gave the Hornets fits.Â Unfortunately for the Bucks, the Hornets defense was also present and the game turned slugfest through the last half of it.Â Very few easy baskets.Â Rare open shots.Â In the end, the Hornets prevailed, pounding out an 87-81 win.(Box Score)
Early on, the Hornets did come out pretty flat, with everyone but Okafor and Paul looking rather slow and low energy.Â They were hitting enough jumpers to stay in it, but there was little fight in them.Â I think the Bucks, however, woke the Hornets up with their physical tactics.Â I saw four different Hornets get outright smacked in the face during fouls, and West took no less than three shots to the head.Â By the second quarter, the Hornets were at full intensity.
In the fourth, the Bucks did unleash one very effective weapon by switching forward Luc Mbah A Moute onto Chris Paul.Â His length, speed and athleticism suddenly made Paul’s job much harder, forcing him into rushed shots and closing off several passing lanes.Â That, of course, brought out the demon.Â Paul exploded off a pick, hesitated, then darted towards the baseline, drilling a floater over the lunging Mbah A Moute and Bogut to seal the game.Â Afterwards, he stepped over a sprawled Mbah A Moute and looked down on him with a contemptuous sneer, snapping his fingers.
Paul is simply murderous, and I have trouble expressing just how much I love getting to watch him remind the rest of the league of that fact.Â Paul finished with 14 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals and a trio of turnovers.Â Oh, and he only played 33 minutes.Â The team is winning with Paul getting rest.Â Sheesh.
The Hornets forward continues to revitalize himself, working hard on both ends.Â His fluffy-soft touch was in full effect tonight, and he was determined to score from the post instead of midrange, which made him downright deadly.Â Even with the Bucks showing some effective defense, he either went to the hoop or hit short fades. His workhorse attack through the middle two periods kept the Hornets in it through some dry spells.Â 25 points on 12 shots.Â 7 FTA, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocksÂ 2 turnovers and 2 fouls.Â Stuffing the stat sheet.
The big man in the center once again showed an effective game, making Bogut work for everything, altering shots on penetration, and muscling people around all game long.Â His statline was mediocre looking, but his defensive presence carried this team for stretches, and his scoring was extremely efficient.Â He also continues to show that improved free throw shooting form Michael McNamara mentioned earlier in the season.Â 11 points on 5 shots.Â 5-5 from the line. 7 rebounds, 2 blocks.
- Monty Williams has a bit of a Sadist in him.Â He gave Pondexter his first NBA minutes tonight – by throwing him into the fire and having him guard Corey Maggette, one of the most accomplished free throw-drawing wings in the game.Â Pondexter got caught by him on his first play of the game, but after that he did fine, including drilled his one shot – a three in the corner.Â Welcome to the NBA, Q-Pon.
- Pondexter’s minutes came at the expense of Marcus Thornton, who only got 5 minutes in the second half after Bayless proved to be so useless that Monty opted for Thornton.Â Sadly, Buckets didn’t do anything really either.Â He and Willie don’t play that well off one another, and though he was open a couple times, he didn’t get the ball.Â Still, the short minutes does lend a lot of credence to the rumors I’ve been hearing from several journalistic sources that Thornton is privately being shopped with Stojakovic in the hopes of landing another impact player at the trade deadline.
- Jason Smith was again the most effective reserve out there.Â I just loved hisÂ hustle play at the end of the quarter to steal the ball from Bogut as he played at being a point guard.Â When Smith capped it by hitting West for a layup as he fell out of bounds, there wasn’t any way not to smile.Â Smith’s energy is so high he had two other occasions he beat the Bucks to a rebound simply by putting out way more effort than anyone else on the floor.Â He did have a couple of those rushed, sideways jumpers I whined about earlier in the season which kept his scoring from being that efficient, but his boardwork and hustle made his minutes effective.
- It seemed the Hornets were treating Boykins with a bit of contempt out there.Â It cost them some stupid turnovers and points.Â Just because he’s small doesn’t mean he’s useless guys.
- Cookies outside shot was golden this game.Â He helped push the lead back out every time the Bucks threatened.
- On the other hand, both Cookies and Ariza were disasters when they put the ball on the floor.Â Head down and out of control.Â I winced several times each.
- Willie Green has earned Monty’s trust.Â Tonight, he didn’t deserve it.Â He had some nice defensive moments, but he had some downright brutal offensive ones, with forced drives, bad turnovers, and some really forced shots.Â 9 shots for 3 points.Â 3 assists, 2 turnovers, and a pair of rebounds.Â He just couldn’t get anything going against a tough Milwaukee second unit.
- He, of course, did better than Jerryd Bayless, whose 0-1 shooting and 4 turnovers left me begging for Monty to pull him.Â His defense is good, but that’s too brutal a line to overcome.
Six Wins.Â Zero Losses.Â I’m having trouble containing my glee.
Podcast coming.Â What would you like to hear us talk about?Â Make suggestions in the comments.
wow! Im shocked you know Johnny Abbarientos! haha! The Flying A! Yeah, hopefully we dont need to do a major trade to go all the way! I believe in this team! We just need to make our rotations sharper. Our opponents will eventually hit their outside shots. Yup! Im a web designer but I enjoy being a Graphic Artist more. My works cant compare to the great Dariusz Ejkiewicz though. His wallpapers/banners are mind blowing.
I like Peja Stojakovic and Marcus Thornton for Andre Igudola! F-West, F-Ariza, C-Okafor, G-Igudola, G-Paul F-Smith, G-Belinelli, C-Mbenga, G-Green, G-Bayless Chris Paul would prefer Igudola over Thornton. I think he'd definitely stay with the Hornets if this trade is made! L_Reazy
I say I would have to agree with Ryan about the MT5 trade as a possibility resulting in Marcus losing his playing time. I was at the Heat game Friday night and noticed specifically once in the 4q when Marcus was on the floor and a timeout was called. I watched him walk off the floor and get word he was coming out. From that point on during the full timeout he was standing off to the back of the huddle disinterested waiving his towel and clearly frustrated. I know no playler likes to come out of the game but expecially one who feels like he has to prove himself as Marcus does and isnt really getting the playing time to do it. As someone that grew up a LSU fan (all sports esp the 3 majors) and for many others like me that have basically followed MT5 since he was coming up, it would suck to see him go. At the same time, if it would be in the best interest of the team and result in more wins its a move that would have to be done. Personally I would prefer a trade for him if he isnt going to get the playing time here in N.O. and give him a chance to play some where else rather than be locked down to our bench gettting 5 min burn a game. I have come to fully trust this coaching staff and believe they are out to maximize the teams potential however possible. GO HORNETS... btw....Friday night was unbelievable..best moment of the night was after the game a fan holding up a sign reading " Hey Lebron, guess you left your talents in South Beach!!" love it
Spoken like a true fan of the Hornets and of Marcus. Classy. It would suck for Thornton to blossom elsewhere compared to blossoming here, but it would suck way more for him not to blossom at all. Sickeningly, the best case scenario would be for a player's game to explode and we trade him out with Peja to get max value in return along with a smaller expiring so we can shed salary and get some talent where we need it most. This is of any cheap player, not just Marcus.
The main problem i have and have always had with trading marcus is that he is my second favorite player on the team.. he just makes things happen when he is in there... lets look at a few scenarios say if marcus is traded to get another more athletic big or something. 1) belly goes down with injury. we are starting willie green at our 2... thats not going to get it done we need a scoring threat at the 2 who can hit spot up shots and willie has never in his career been a spot up knock down shooter... same situation but now willie gets hurt or even bayless (who i have thought has looked by far our worst player even worse then mbenga). now we are down to a 3 man rotation with not a lot of scoring punch 2) willie is a fa after season and is old why would we sign him over marcus who we can prob get for cheap with his avg of 15 min a game.... we cant trade him i know for a fact he will be a player we regret getting rid of... give him pt he is our best option out there... imo his defense has been better than every guard besides willie and cp3
An AK47-Peja trade straightup? No doubt he'd be valuable off the Hornets bench. Once Okur comes back from his injury, I'm sure Jazz would look to trade AK.
The Hornets are in first place right now and thus far, Demps has shown he know what he's doing. Perhaps his success will compel other GMs to do biz with the Hornets and we can dump Peja, Gray, and Thorton for some big men that will keep us on top.
Our young gm has proven he has an eye for players he feels can fit the mold and the results are def speaking every trade he's made has been met with a raised eye brow I love buckets but,I have faith if demps makes a move it will be another good one
Beyond the fantastic play of CP3, DX and Meka; Trevor Ariza has been an integral part of our turnaround this year. Yah the guy doesn't put up great stats and yes he does have some of those moments on offense where you are left scratching your head after an airball 3 or a reckless drive to the hoop. But the guys game goes beyond the stats. He just does all the little things out there that helps make this a successful teams. His length and athleticism have been sorely missing from this team over the past few years.
go hornets! 6-0! yay! the media is taking note! for a great article on the hornets and cp3 check: http://www.lowpostnews.com/hornets/me-so-hornets11072010/
No way in hell CP3 is thinking about leaving, he bleeds teal/yellow/purple/white! He is a Hornet and will remain one, Thank you to Monty and Demps for being masterminds to our joy! Ps I think we can go 7-0? Anyone with me on this with the clippers missing baron davis and now gordon, tuesday looks very promising! Geaux Hornets!!!
I can't think of anytime I've seen CP look unhappy in an interview since this season started. He's just all business, which I think is a good thing. If there is any negative attitude, I think that would be aimed at the media itself, for creating this whole "CP demands a trade" story this offseason. He doesn't seem to trust the media right now. As for the Marcus, Bayless, Belinelli controversy: Bayless can score. I know New Orleans basketball fans watch a lot of Hornets games but probably not a lot of Portland Trailblazers games. There were stretches last season when Bayless was playing big minutes with Portland. He can flat out score. Monty knows that because he's coached him for the last 3 seasons. The problem with him is that he's a combo guard or maybe even just a 2. So Monty is conducting an experiment. That's all it is. It's best to play that experiment out so that he makes a confident decision. Contrary to some comments posted earlier, 6 games isn't a lot. Especially considering that these guys are human beings, not robots. The guy got traded a couple of days before the season started and he was thrown right into the fray. There's a lot of practical and emotional issues to deal with, on top of learning where he fits in with a system and personnel group. I think it's very feasible to consider packaging Marcus with Peja and Monty sees Bayless as a very effective bench scorer, which he can definitely be. I don't necessarily see who I'd be trading for right now but its a long season and things develop. We just don't know right now. Its clear though that Monty is willing to conduct these long experiments to settle on a rotation. That's a good thing because now is the time of year for that. Come the trade deadline, we want to be sure of the rotation we're going to run with in the postseason. Belinelli is playing good defense and can knock down the outside shot. That is vital in our starting lineup. We're a pick and roll team so we have to have those spot up shooters. Marcus can shoot, but he can't match up defensively with 90% of starting 2 guards in the league. Like someone said in another post, basketball is about matchups and a blend of players on the floor at any given time. If this Bayless thing hasn't progressed 10-15 games into the season, we'll see more of Marcus. It just has to play out and that takes time. We want this to be happening right now, not later in the season.
Quote of the night comes from Gerry V. during the radio broadcast: "...with all these turnovers, the Hornets are lucky Milwaukee can't hit a continent, even if they are standing on it." Ugly win, but when you can win ugly on the road, against a hard-nosed team like the Bucks, that says something. It certainly appeared that Belly and Ariza were channeling their inner Devin Brown when it came to handling the ball. Thats ok though, Hornets still pulled it out. Thats 2 SEGBABA wins this year already. Happy face.
Hey I am looking for the guy on here that is from Eugene. First of all F the Ducks. Secondly, we need to get together and drink some beers during a Hornets game. If you read this, shoot me a text or call me 503 930 3198. I know I shouldn't put my number out there but hell, I am dealing with Hornet fans, the best people in the world!
I'll second the F the Ducks lol I graduated from OSU the year before last so Beaver Believer all the way!!! You going to the Hornets game up here at the end of the month?
Yup, it's kinda risky putting your number up there. Maybe Joe or someone can make a section on the forums for Hornets fans looking to meet other fans in a specific area and make it private so that only registered members can see it. Might come in handy especially with the Hornets247 community getting bigger. Just a thought though.
1) I'm really hoping the amount of time MT5 is seeing at the moment is related to his achilles(sp?) injury in one way or the other. Bayless has been absolutely worthless and it is frustrating to see Monty giving him the Byron Scott preferential treatment. He should have to earn his playing time like Marcus is having to do. I think it is because he does not want to look bad for trading our 2011 pick away for this guy. 2) I can not get enough of Jason Smith. The guy is not only playing lights out off the bench but also appears to have emerged as the inspirational leader of the second unit. It's kind of sad when you can tell that one millionaire player is outhustling the other millionaire players by a drastic margin. But hey, at least the hustlers are on our team. 3) I like the fire and competitiveness coming out of CP3 that we have seen to start the season but from what I have seen in interviews, he does not seem like he wants to be here. I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY despise what LeBron James has done to our favored Hornet. CP3 is not even seeing reality when it comes to the caliber of team he is with vs what he would be with in NY. (Amare is terrible and way overpaid!) Worth Mentioning: A Saints win tomorrow will mean that the Hornets, Saints, and LSU Tigers will have not lost for 2 weeks running, each team beating an opponent that most people thought they had no business beating. Enjoy the good cooking! 6-0 is just downright nasty and for all we might disagree with the handling of MT5, Monty Williams has led this team to a 6-0 record vs. quality teams, so I will not doubt him even though every homer fiber in my body is downright annoyed because Buckets has outplayed Bayless.
My two cents about CP. He is an integral part of a team which won against the much publicized trio of James, Wade, and Bosh. Would he really think that playing with other superstars in NY would be a good thing towards winning when he and his band of merry men just beat a similar collection of talent? Also, Chris Paul did say that he is after winning and that's what they are doing currently. In my humble opinion, there's no way CP is thinking about being with another team especially right now.
Seriously, what interviews are you two watching? I haven't seen CP3 say anything different this season in post game interviews than he did in 08. The standard, the team and the guys are playing well and they really stepped up making my job easier. If you guys can point to one of these interviews where he didn't look happy in a hornets uni, it would be appreciated as your take is counter to everything I have seen and read this season.
I don't think the Heat interview that everyone is referring to was taken the right way. If you look back at opening night when the Celtics beat the Heat, Rondo looked highly ticked off in the interview, because so much is being made out of... essentially nothing. CP3, being 5 games into the season without losing, probably felt about the same way. Despite the fact that his hornets had been playing better basketball, the Heat still got the media love, and that would annoy me too.
I noticed his businesslike demeanor after the heat win, but I had a totally different take. He said the exact same thing as he did after the first 4 wins: (paraphrasing) they are all professionals, that they prepare and always take the floor with the mindset that they are going to win. My translation: "A) The Heat are just like any other team that we aren't supposed to beat -- beatable...and B) if you are surprised that MY team is winning, then you have some memory-loss issues and shouldn't have a job reporting on basketball. Get your head out of LeBron's/Rondo's/Deron's/your own a**, and you'll have an unobstructed view of the best player in the league."
Its not so much what he has said more of what he hasn't said. And I think it is just the way CP is but for a man who would have just beaten the Heat at the time and was on a team that was currently 5-0 he didn't seem very enthused. I agree its nothing really to be worried about and no one is seriously worrying about it. Its just something we have picked up and you cant blame us for being a little concerned. Its Chris Paul and we want him to be happy (:
Haha! That's why we shouldn't be worried about CP thinking of leaving this team. We're Six-and-Oh after that horrendous off-season (with the whole CP3 trade rumors going on), so we should be partying(!) and enjoying the Hornets show instead of entertaining negative thoughts.
The story I hard was he slapped him on the butt or head, no joke intended, and yelled that at him after a great effort play. His demeanor in the games is definitely one of being all in for this band of brothers. He is always giving props to Belinelli when he draws fouls or if he gets a bad call CP3 is always the first one up on him talking in his ear like he was with DC last season. I think that's why Belinelli won the starting spot, Chris seems to like him or jell better with him personality-wise. You get this big brother vibe when he deals with Marcus, but Belinelli seems to get the David West treatment. Mek seems to be starting to get it as well.
Is that true about CP shouting at Mek that "it's winning time!"? If so, then I would use that as a counter to any argument saying CP not being committed to the Hornets. Thank you.
I agree that CP isn't looking like a happy camper in interviews but I got a feeling that he just hates talking to the media and doesn't want to bother dealing with them. I would get annoyed if the media kept saying things about me that made me look like a bad personality. I dont think his mind is focusing on anything but his hornets and his family. If Mike, Joe or Ryan have an answer I wouldn't mind you guys talking about it, thats if you think its anything to worry about. Cp has never been one to show to much emotion early in a season.
man i hope you are right. i would hate to see cp3 go, and i wud b really angry at da hornets management if he does leave. look how long it took them to ship our useless players out, please dont leave cp3. we might not get a championship this year but we will get close. we just have to start gettin ready for dem lakers (my other team)
Repeat until it sinks in: Bayless is not a PG. Marco's defense was spectacular again tonight. Delfino had been scoring like crazy in recent games. Marco shut him down (2pts) in the first half, and then Delfino gets hurt and can't finish the game. For those posters who suggest starting Thornton, you've got to be kidding. Basketball is about blend and chemistry. Complementary skills and team play. That's what we've got. We're 6-0 and against good competition. Why change what works?
i remember last week when we were all like "hornets could go 6-0 but its really unlikely. these will be tough games and we expect at least one loss" well damn we were wrong. I WAS WRONG. the hornets have done it and im just flat out impressed. now i have this feeling like they should be extremely exhausted and have no energy for the other 76 games
i think 3 points of discussions are: Bayless(how awful is he and prospects for the future), How the Hornets have made it 6 - 0(what are the things that strike you the most) and Peja/MT5 rumors.
I agree with HiMyNameisSteven. MT5 can't go, he's a huge spark off the bench. The only position we could improve our roster is at the 2...MAYBE! But that moves "(Get in my) Belli-nelli" to the bench which is ANOTHER guard. I'm just not seein it AND we're 6-0 why mess with the chemistry. If we did Iggy for MT5/Peja, sounds good but who's to say he even meshes with the team. Topic to talk about? Bayless. I mean WTF? He looks out of control...all the time. Monty said he "needs time to adapt to this team and know where guys are going to be on the court" but it's been 6 games now. What can he improve on (except everything)? Is he becoming too big of a liability to be on the court? Ariza ain't much of a talker but here's his post-game interview: http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2010/11/07/20101106_alink_ariza.nba/
First on the game; two teams playing back to backs, and the one on the road wins!! That says a lot about the grit and determination of the Hornets. On the podcast: Why trade Peja now? If the Hornets keep Peja's expiring contract management can use his cap dollars on any combination of the following: summer 2011 free agents, existing players contracts (these expire this year: Green, Marcus, Pops, and DJ), preseason 2011 trades where the Hornets feasted in 2010 (Belinelli for Juju, and Green and Smith for Songaila), and/or roll it into the 2012 season (for D. West's new deal and any new player who's contract expires in 2011-12). If you trade Peja you have to take back equal salary cap dollars more or less. Why would management tie their hands when they are about to be free of that last, horrible contract? The only way trading Peja makes sense is if you get a player or players with expiring contracts who are better than Peja (which might be anyone), but what team in their right mind would give you that? And who would be an upgrade to your starting five (besides Carmelo)? (Andre Iguodala is another Chris Paul sized contract with one more year that Chris's!) Would you trade Peja for a backup center if you could? And how much value does Marcus really add to the trade package? [The answer is next to none.] Look at a team doing poorly like Houston. Who do you want? The expiring contact of Battier or Jefferies? Scola's deal with four years remaining at $7.8, $8.5, $9.4, and $10.2. Many of the teams doing poorly don't need cap relief or suck, or both. Who do you want off of the Bobcats, not that they have cap issues? Here are the salary cap numbers for each player: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9146. Who do you want off of any team with zero or one win so far? I say no one who you can get. (I have heard Marc Gasol's name thrown around but why would Memphis trade one of their top players, and best center, for Peja? They don't need cap relief.) Do you think contenders for a playoff spots will part with anyone good before the Feb. 15th trade deadline? That eliminates like 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the league. [Over half of the league MAKES the playoffs!!] And how valuable are draft picks when many college players will likely stay in college in 2011 to avoid a lockout and the uncertainty of the terms of the new collective barganing agreement. How bad can another year at Duke be for their non-Seniors? Carolina for their star freshman? How valuable are trade exemptions to a Hornet team that will likely try to win under the cap? I say trading Peja is a pipe dream. We are likely stuck with him until the end of the year because that is the best thing for the team.
WE CANNOT TRADE MARCUS... we simply cant after the first 6 games bayless looks awful and willie is not a great outside shooter we need marcus for scoring... we r not going to have 87 81 games all season we need marcus for scoring.... also i personally thought belly played pretty bad tonight. please give marcus some time i honestly still think he is our best 2 guard by far
if we trade marcus and peja for a backup 2/3 who can score and play some defense why wouldnt we make the trade? Demps isnt gonna give up that duo unless he gets a very solid player on both ends of the floor. and right now marcus isnt really producing
i completely agree with you, he does produce when given minutes, but hes just not given minutes due to his lack of defense and inconsistency. he also seems to take a lot of bad shots. I love marcus and would rather him not be traded unless for a significant asset. im just trying to think of excuses for him being traded.
hes not gunnna produce getting 5 min a game... give him minutes he scores look at his games this season when he gets p.t. he puts up numbers
Great game tonight. I wanna hear you talking about this weird guard rotation. Because, right now, that's a big question. Who's in front of who in Monty's rotation.
How about talking who would be the best impact player that we can get for Thornton and Peja? Or, what's the most we could get for Peja's expiring contract alone. We've seen Thornton getting some decent burn against other teams but not against MIL so maybe it's about match-ups and not about being on the trading block. Six and Oh! Any Filipino Hornets fan near Albay? Let's get together for some drinks while watching the replay of the game! Hahaha!
hey bug! im a Filipino Hornets fan here! ever since LJ, mugsy, zo's era! i like your idea of drinking while watching the replay but im way too far from your place! haha btw, 6-0 hornets! nice!
flying A ftw! he also helped ginebra win a championship! and yes lets believe in this hornets team and have faith in monty and CP3!
Hahaha! That's because I was born, raised and still resides in the Phils. :D Grew up watching the PBA (well, a lot of times listening on the radio). It was during those years when Swift, Alaska, San Miguel, and Ginebra were battling for supremacy that I grew to love this game. Being short, I've always looked up to (pun intended of course) Johnny and other not-too-tall players (Hi Mugsey! and franz!). Hence the affinity for our 6-foot leader Chris (tempted to insert the F word here for emphasis) Paul. Thanks for the Abarrientos reference, I remember reading something about franchise players' positions and the chance of winning a championship. That Alaska team that won the grandslam in 94 I think was anchored by that small guy Johnny. I just might write a piece about that after some more research. LOL
wow! Im shocked you know Johnny Abarrientos! haha! The Flying A! Yeah, hopefully we dont need to do a major trade to go all the way! I believe in this team! We just need to make our rotations sharper. Our opponents will eventually hit their outside shots. Yup! Im a web designer but I enjoy being a Graphic Artist more. My works cant compare to the great Dariusz Ejkiewicz though. His wallpapers/banners are mind blowing.
Yep, my main man. Johnny Abarrientos. Woohoo! Good to see plenty of Filipinos here. About Iggy, I'm not sure about bringing any new guy in until Monty finishes his experiments. If it ain't broke after all we shouldn't worry about fixin' anything. Also, jet, love your works. Professional web designer? I think that's what Niall do too for a living.
There are only a few Filipino Hornets fans here in the Philippines. I think some people here heard of the Hornets because a 1-time PBA MVP was rumored to be trying out for the Hornets. haha! Iguodala's an iron man. he has only missed 6 games in his 7 year career prior to his injury. I really love MT5's game and explosiveness but overall I think Iguo would improve the team in the long run. He'll be needing to practice his jumpers though. I also feel bad for MT5 since he's from the state too.
Filipino Hornet fan here! I live in Manila though. haha! I really think MT5 and Peja will be traded :'( Who are the possible players we could get in return? How about Iguo? I tried this trade and it works. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2f6sw3v CP3, Ariza and Iguo would be the pressure defense/fbreak wing lineup in the league!